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From Jens-Heiner Rechtien <jhrecht...@web.de>
Subject Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)
Date Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:13:19 GMT
Hi Christian,

On 06/17/2011 04:42 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> Hi Heiner, *,
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Jens-Heiner Rechtien<jhrechtien@web.de>  wrote:
>> On 06/17/2011 03:57 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Daniel Shahaf<d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>>   wrote:
>>>> Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:43:04 +0200:
>>>
>>>> I'd be interested to know if bugzilla/* have comparable features...
>>>
>>> It has, and that it doesn't work on openoffice.org is due to the lack
>>> of interest of the kenai/OOo admins to fix the setup, not because
>>> bugzilla wasn't capable of it.
>>> Bugzilla itsellf supports xmlrpc, and that support is not going to vanish.
>>>
>>> I reported the broken xml-rpc interface when OOo did migrate from CEE
>>> (CollabNet Enterpriese Edition, formerly known as SourceCast) to
>>> Kenai, but there apparenlty was no interest in fixing it.
>>
>> It's a completely moot point now, but give them the benefit of doubt. They
>> were stressed enough to get the migration running at that time,
>
> Migration at that time was already done - the site was live.
>
>> I'm pretty
>> sure they would have fixed this later.
>
> Later? I doubt it.

Why?

>
>> And I guess you'll understand that
>> making it even easier for the TDF to leach bug reports from OOo wasn't at
>> the very top of their priorities given that there was plenty enough
>
> And what is that? At that time, I didn't knew about TDF at all. And
> Oracle did not either, so this "argument" is not wrong, and not only
> silly - it speaks for itself :-(

You didn't anout the TDF in March 2011? Wasn't it founded sometime last 
year? September I think.

>
> But I have been running&  maintaining IZBot for years.
> And it never was used to "leach bug reports".

Yep that's right and a very legitimate argument for asking for a nice 
API. I apologize, forgot about that.

>
> Because of the lack of xml-rpc and lack of interest on CollabNet's
> side at the time to prevent the xml-export of issues from bringing
> down the site due to its lousy performance (creating a xml-export of a
> bug with many comments easily takes longer than 30 seconds), I got a
> "secret" URL for use with IZBot for this use while  regular xml-export
> was disabled.
> IZBot has been in use for day-to-day chatting and on special bug-days.
>
> http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=89846
>
>> important stuff that needed be fixed. But as I said, all this is completely
>> moot now.
>
> No, what you just did is just sad.

You'll have to realize that this whole TDF thing agonized some decade 
long OOo developers and they are now free to voice it. Get used to it, 
it will happen occasionally. I'll for myself promise that I'll try to 
suppress the urge to do this as long as no one speaks ill of my 
colleagues who worked on this project.

Heiner

-- 
Jens-Heiner Rechtien

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