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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject RE: Oh, let's not forget too
Date Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:52:58 GMT
I'd say, generally, that this is partly a vanity/affinity e-mail domain, just as The Documentation
Foundation is preparing to do for (although I think you'll have to be a TDF
Member to get one, not sure how high that bar will be).  It's like my,
(when I had it), or my college alumnus .org. Except about as easy as,,

I hadn't thought about all of the places that people may have provided their
email addresses in their profiles, forum sigs, etc.  I just logged on to the site and I notice
it asks for either an Username OR email address along with the password I had assigned myself.

The wiki has a different username and password (and no click-through agreement that I recall
seeing when I registered the other day).

The English user forum does have a terms of use, not mentioning the overall site terms though.

Although I can choose an Username, it looks like the email address is the biggie.  Hah, I
have to indicate which version of OO.o I am running on what system before I am allowed to
complete the registration.  The Signature entry is scanned to ensure I've done that.  It is
filtered and becomes part of my signature on Forum posts.  They are doing an e-mail confirmation

So more about what is on forums, what people are currently clicked-through, and the use of
email addresses tied to accounts and possibly visible in profiles.

 - Dennis


At the user forum (where I just started a signup) *all* it says I am agreeing to with regard
to my contribution is this: 

"As a user you agree to any information you have entered to being stored in a database. While
this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent, neither “
Community Forum” nor phpBB shall be held responsible for any hacking attempt that may lead
to the data being compromised."  

There is no license mention other than to point out that phpBB is made available under the
GPL.  The URI is and its
title is "Register * User Control Panel"  

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Fisher [] 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 14:00
Subject: Re: Oh, let's not forget too

On Jun 20, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Herbert Duerr wrote:

> On 20.06.2011 14:33, Rob Weir wrote:
>> I'm having difficulty reconciling the email forwarding
>> service with how Apache projects work.
>> [...]
>> And remember, committers are given email forwards via an a.o email
>> address.  So there is no functional requirement that I can see for an
>> OOo address, other than the conventional postmaster and admin
>> addresses.
>> So I'd favor ending the OOo email forwarding.
> This would be very bad for e.g. issue tracking. I'm not sure how the bugtracker database
will get imported though. I think it would be useful if the issue reporters, owners or people
who put themselves on the CC list of an issue could see the progress of their favourite tasks.
The addresses were used e.g. for notifications or for attributing an issue
comment to a user.

We certainly need a plan that does not simply stop email.

We certainly need to make decisions based on all the email lists that currently exist - which or other mailing list is the replacement.

For notifications about issues both JIRA and Bugzilla can be set to notify the proper
mailing list.

Does anyone have a handle on the numbers?

How many mailing lists are there at

How many individual forwards do we have?

It would help to have some data before discussing with Infrastructure what they are willing
to support and when.

>> The alternative would be to continue this service, but that begs the
>> question of who is permitted such an address, what such an address
>> means, who decides and what criteria are used to decide who gets such
>> an address?
> In the old project everybody who wanted to e.g. add a detail to an issue could get such
an address within a few minutes. This is similar to how many other projects work, e.g. KDE.

So, ANYONE could get an email alias for their real email address?

And there must be infrastructure to be able to change that email address and cancel it as

Messy, the bugzilla transition is therefore entangled with how we deal with

Does this personal email forwarding also entangle with the user forum transitions?


> Best regards,
> Herbert Duerr

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