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From conflue...@apache.org
Subject [CONF] Apache OpenOffice.org Community > Changes integrate the forums into the AOOo project
Date Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:29:00 GMT
Space: Apache OpenOffice.org Community (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS)
Page: Changes integrate the forums into the AOOo project (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project)
Comment: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project?focusedCommentId=27827022#comment-27827022

Comment added by Christian Grobmeier:
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Peter, I added your suggestion on contributers vs committers. 

On ICLA: 
http://apache.org/licenses/
http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt

I would like to quote:
"The ASF desires that all contributors of ideas, code, or documentation to the Apache projects
complete, sign, and submit ... an Individual Contributor License Agreement ... The purpose
of this agreement is to clearly define the terms under which intellectual property has been
contributed to the ASF and thereby allow us to defend the project should there be a legal
dispute regarding the software at some future time. A signed CLA is required to be on file
before an individual is given commit rights to an ASF project."

I think it is necessary that people allow the ASF to work with their property. There is no
way round on this, and this is how all organisations (for example Dojo Foundation) are working.

In reply to a comment by Peter Roelofsen:
"Volunteers can be compared with Apache contributors."

They can't. A person who contributes only one pack of code, no matter how large, is probably
still considered as a contributor, but somebody who posts only once in the forums will never
get the status of volunteer.
A volunteer is a user of the forum who manages to get noticed for the quality and frequency
of his/her posts, which are answers to questions. Volunteers have a voice in decisions concerning
the forum, _because_ they are committed.
The only people who can really be compared to Apache contributors are the people who submit
macro and/or program code in the Customizing and extending forums (mainly Code snippets).
And anyone can do that, not just volunteers or higher. Maybe you should do something with
those sub forums.

"Proposal #3:
Forum staff who are elected as PMC must subscribe to the private@ mailinglist. They need to
sign a ICLA (with real name)."

Why sign a ICLA if what they do is rarely, if at all, copyright related, which is what the
ICLA is all about?

floris v from user.services.openoffice.org, volunteer at the English forums, admin at the
Dutch.

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