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From conflue...@apache.org
Subject [CONF] Apache OpenOffice.org Community > Changes integrate the forums into the AOOo project
Date Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:25:01 GMT
Space: Apache OpenOffice.org Community (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS)
Page: Changes integrate the forums into the AOOo project (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project)
Comment: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project?focusedCommentId=27827967#comment-27827967

Comment added by Christian Grobmeier:
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Of course it makes sense what you say.
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But you forget, that you get access to svn, ssh and varios other places at the ASF when are
committer. You have the chance to change code (even when it is unlikely you do that) and services
and this is what the CLA covers.

At the moment - and it is unlikely that this rule will change in future - you can only become
access to these systems and finally a binding vote, if you sign it.

Of course you can choose not to sign it and not become a committer. But then you have to trust
the PMCs that they act to your liking.

On the dutch example, we have already agreed that it is not necessary for everybody to step
up the PMC/Committership, even when being moderators/admins.

And as a sidenote, you don't buy or rent anything with signing the cla. You protect the ASF
by saying: whatever code I create, I has not been stolen. I think this is pretty acceptable.


In reply to a comment by Peter Roelofsen:
Well, the Dutch language forum was started specifically because lots of Dutch people have
a very poor understanding of English, and one of the moderators there can't make sense of
the iCLA. I doubt that signing a contract that you don't understand is legally binding, so
maybe you should provide translations in the relevant nl's.
I don't object to signing a CLA, provided that it covers my activities, and I have tried to
show here that the CLA doesn't do that at all. When I want to rent a house, I am not going
to sign the contract if the contract stipulates that I'm buying the house. Surely that makes
sense?

edited typo

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