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From conflue...@apache.org
Subject [CONF] Apache OpenOffice.org Community > Changes integrate the forums into the AOOo project
Date Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:20:00 GMT
Space: Apache OpenOffice.org Community (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS)
Page: Changes integrate the forums into the AOOo project (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project)

Comment edited by Peter Roelofsen :
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Quote: "The forum community divides in:

    Site Admins
    Forum Admins
    Moderators
    Volunteers"

That's not counting the registered users of course, but maybe you mean something different
with "community".

Quote: "Volunteers can be compared with Apache committers."

On rereading this it strikes me that many volunteers may not have a clear idea of what committers
are. So maybe we should describe what volunteers are by their actions, and add as a comment
that that description matches committers.

Proposal: "Volunteers are registered users of the forum(s) with a post count of over 200 (or
another lower limit), who visit and post regularly, mostly help solve problems and rarely
ask for help (except for instance when they ask a question in the English forum for somebody
in an nl forum), report spam and in general show commitment to the forum(s), as opposed to
regular registered users who may never post at all or post infrequently, or mostly post to
ask questions. Volunteers have read/write access to the administration forums and can vote
on policy decisions just like moderators and administrators. Moderators and administrators
of nl forums also get the volunteer rank for the English forum, regardless of how often they
post there."

How to become a volunteer.
I'm reminded of a FAQ for the forums of a gaming website that had as one of the questions:
"How can I apply for moderatorship?" And the answer: "You can't. One sure way _not_ to become
a moderator is to apply for the situation."
Here it's not quite so bad, but applications for volunteership are largely ignored if the
applicant doesn't meet the requirements. A moderator or volunteer will notice that a user
makes significant contributions and posts regularly, and then suggests to give the volunteer
rank to that user. Mostly everybody agrees. I feel that it's nicer to keep those discussions
hidden from the public: it adds to the pleasant surprise of being invited to join the volunteers
when you don't expect it.

Historically there has been very little disagreement on policy; I remember a discussion about
keeping out spammers by a captcha or a mandatory signature with version information, some
debates about how tolerant we are towards people who don't behave nicely, one much valued
moderator left because he felt we were too accommodating.

*many edits, some historical information added*

Comment was previously :
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More comments on the present proposal

Quote: "The forum community divides in:

    Site Admins
    Forum Admins
    Moderators
    Volunteers"

That's not counting the registered users of course, but maybe you mean something different
with "community".

Quote: "Volunteers can be compared with Apache committers."

On rereading this it strikes me that many volunteers may not have a clear idea of what committers
are. So maybe we should describe what volunteers are by their actions, and add as a comment
that that description matches committers.

Proposal: "Volunteers are registered users of the forum(s) with a post count of over 200 (or
another lower limit), who visit and post regularly, mostly help solve problems and rarely
ask for help (except for instance when they ask a question in the English forum for somebody
in an nl forum), report spam and in general show commitment to the forum(s), as opposed to
regular users who may never post at all or post infrequently, or mostly post to ask questions.
Volunteers have read/write access to the administration forums. Moderators and administrators
of nl forums also get the volunteer rank for the English forum, regardless of how often they
post there."

How to become a volunteer.
I'm reminded of a FAQ for the forums of a gaming website that stated: How can I apply for
moderatorship? And the answer: You can't. One sure way _not_ to become a moderator is to apply
for the situation.
Here it's not quite so bad. A moderator or volunteer will notice that a user makes significant
contributions and posts regularly, and then suggests to give the volunteer rank to that user.
Mostly everybody agrees. I feel that it's nicer to keep those discussions hidden from the
public: it adds to the pleasant surprise of being invited to join the volunteers when you
don't expect it.

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