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From Rob Weir <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSSION] odftoolkit-0.5-incubating-rc1 is ready
Date Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:32:09 GMT
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Devin Han <> wrote:
> Hi all,
> After learning Apache release policy[1], I prepared a candidate release on
> First time do this work, so maybe exist omission or misunderstand, please
> examine it and give your comments.

Hi Devin,

Thanks again for taking this big step forward and creating a release
candidate (RC) for us to review.

I downloaded via this command:


I tested on Ubuntu 11.04

A few things I noticed:

1.  In the source release there is no instructions for how to build.
Maybe in CHANGES.txt we can add a short section that says something

The Apache ODF Toolkit uses Apache Maven for building (link to Maven
website).  If you have Maven already installed you can build by
entering the command "mvn install".

2. There is nothing in CHANGES.txt that points back to our website:

3. In general, we should try to connect the user to other resources
that would be useful to them, like the sample code, demos, odf-users
mailing list, JIRA for issues, etc.  We could have that all in a
README file, or have a link to a "getting started" page on the

4. In CHANGES.txt we have this line:

"The following people have contributed to ODF Toolkit 0.5 by
submitting or commenting on the issues resolved in this release:"

I wonder if we should be broader in who we acknowledge.  Some people
contributed via comments on the mailing list, for example.

Maybe list all committers and mentors (from this page: as well as any
non-committers who contributed patches or reported bugs that were

5. When I do a mvn install from the source release route, I get 1 failed test:

Failed tests:

When I run mvn install from /simple I get two failed tests:


It is odd I get different results.

6. We cannot include the ODF and MathML schemas in the source release.
 The issue is that the license for these schemas does not allow
modification.  So it is not "open source".  But we are allowed to have
our build scripts download the schemas automatically and include them
in binaries.  But we can't store these in our SVN or include them in
source releases.


Checking our source release I see these RNG schemas:


So... what can we do now?  Can we download these schemas directly from
OASIS and the W3C, via Maven?

The ODF schemas are available here, from OASIS:

The MathML schemas seem to be here:

But this is a significant change to the build, so we'll need to be careful.

Removing the schemas will also give us a much cleaner RAT report:

7. I just took a quick look at the binary release.  I see that you
have all of the JAR's, according to the Maven directory structure,



But if someone is using Maven then they don't really need our binary
release.  They'll just get it from Maven Central.  So our binary
release is mainly useful for someone who is not using Maven.  But
would it be easier for them to have all the JAR's in one directory, to
make it easier to add to their classpath?

> If this candidate is passed, is the technical work for the first release
> ready?
> The candidate for the ODF Toolkit 0.5-incubating-rc1 release is available
> at:
> SVN Tag:
> Change Notes:
> ---------------------------------
> [1]
> --
> -Devin

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