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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 16:46:57 -0800
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Subject: Re: [lucy-dev] RFC: Grant all ASF Committers Lucy SVN karma

+1, let's do it.

Cheers,
Chris

P.S. Super +1! *grin*

On Dec 1, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

> Outstanding Marvin!
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com>
>> To: lucy-dev@incubator.apache.org=20
>> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 7:28 PM
>> Subject: [lucy-dev] RFC: Grant all ASF Committers Lucy SVN karma
>>=20
>> Greets,
>>=20
>> I'd like to propose that the Lucy podling consider nuking our Subversion=
 authz
>> entry, allowing anyone who is a Committer at the ASF to commit to the Lu=
cy
>> corner of the ASF repository.
>>=20
>> There are two primary rationales for making this change.  First, we make=
 life
>> easier for Infra -- especially if other projects follow our lead.  Secon=
d, we
>> lower the barrier to entry for other ASF committers to contribute to Luc=
y.
>>=20
>> Of course we would still have a soft rule in place that significant chan=
ges
>> must be run through lucy-dev first, but we would trust other committers =
to
>> follow this rule rather than enforce it through access control as we do =
today.
>>=20
>> Security is not a problem.  For this to work, we have to monitor our com=
mits
>> list closely -- but any project that doesn't monitor its commits list cl=
osely
>> doesn't deserve to live at the ASF in the first place.  The bare minimum
>> effort is just to watch the sender address for looking for unfamiliar ap=
ache
>> ids.  Anything that we catch and don't like, we can just revert.
>>=20
>> Provenance tracking is not a problem either -- anybody who has ASF commi=
t
>> privileges has an iCLA on file. =20
>>=20
>> Various people throughout the ASF are on record supporting the liberaliz=
ation
>> of repository permissions, including Board member Roy Fielding and Lucy
>> Mentors Joe Schaefer and Chris Mattmann.  Roy recently wrote to
>> general@incubator urging that the all Incubator committers be given comm=
it
>> access to all podlings:
>>=20
>>     http://s.apache.org/0HY
>>=20
>>     I *suggest* that incubator change the procedure such that all commit=
ters
>>     (or at least all committers within a single LDAP group) have access =
to all
>>     incubator areas and that new people simply be requested to only comm=
it
>>     within areas for which they have been given permission by the podlin=
g
>>     developers.=20
>>=20
>> Joe and I believe that we should go one step further and grant access to=
 the
>> entire ASF committer community.  Neither Joe, nor I, nor Gavin MacDonald
>> foresee serious problems.  There may be Incubator-specific bookkeeping i=
ssues
>> that arise, as discussed in the followups to Roy's post, but those shoul=
dn't
>> block us on principle.
>>=20
>> From what Joe tells me, other ASF communities have discussed making such=
 a
>> change, but we would be the first to actually go through with it.
>>=20
>> If we have general consensus, I will call a VOTE proposing that we liber=
alize
>> our authz to the maximum extent possible within the practical constraint=
s of
>> the Incubator.
>>=20
>> Marvin Humphrey
>>=20
>>=20
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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