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Subject: Re: [lucy-dev] [DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: [lucy-dev] All
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On Oct 27, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote:

>>> Commit mails on markmail.org still show mostly "just" Marvin.
>>> Or what am I missing?
>>=20
>> Commits aren't the only sign of community. They also aren't the only
>> sustaining thing you need. You need:
>>=20
>> * VOTEs
>> * discussion emails
>> * JIRA threads
>> * release managers
>> * documentation writers, etc.
>=20
> That's all and great but this falls down as soon as Marvin (for
> whatever reason) would be gone.

I wholly disagree with you.

[...]

> As much as I would love to see lucy graduate I still think it's not ready=
.
>=20
> Well, and I am saying this is not a diverse community - which also one
> of the goals of incubation. A single person committing on a TLP is not
> quite the Apache way I know.
>=20
> Frankly - I don't understand the rush.

What rush? I raised this issue months ago, and we actually had some discuss=
ions
about it. Most folks in the community agreed that the remaining item to che=
ck off
was the licensing issues.

http://s.apache.org/a08

Months is not a rush.=20

Go read the Lucy reports: the project has been in Incubation=20
since July 2010: so it's been about 1 year, 3 months. Every project has a d=
ifferent=20
amount of time in Incubation and every project has a checklist of things to=
 get done
before graduating. I think we've met that checklist.=20

Cheers,
Chris

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Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
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