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From Adrian Cole <fernc...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [libcloud] Java Skeleton Available
Date Thu, 20 May 2010 19:39:56 GMT
Is there anyone who isn't from IBM that would like to add a java or C
rewrite of libcloud to the project?

-Adrian

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Peter Haggar <pfhaggar@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think a Java version makes sense and would like to contribute to it.
>
> >too early to create fragmentation in the cloud communities.
> That's exactly what I am trying to avoid and why I think Eric's suggestion
> is sensible.  There's too much fragmentation now and his idea is a way to
> coalesce some of that under one umbrella.
>
> >Libcloud is undeniably python focused, and Java doesn't make sense here.
> No argument that it is python focused today, but the question is does it
> make sense to expand to other languages?  I think the answer is Yes because
> then there is a single API abstraction that supports a wide variety of IaaS
> vendors in multiple languages.  Can you explain why that doesn't make
> sense?
>
> >I suggest joining a community like jclouds
> Again, the goal is a single API abstraction, not multiple.  Moving this to
> jclouds would create fragmentation and would require users to use the
> libCloud API for an IaaS abstraction if they are coding in Python, but a
> different IaaS API if they use Java.  Presumably if the community wanted to
> add other languages you'd suggest yet another API?  That makes no sense.
> I'd prefer one API.
>
> >...and find it a bad fit, submit your apache incubator proposal.
> I would like to avoid that as that creates fragmentation.
>
> Peter
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Adrian Cole <ferncam1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > My thoughts are its too early to create fragmentation in the cloud
> > communities.  Libcloud is undeniably python focused, and Java doesn't
> make
> > sense here. I suggest joining a community like jclouds or dasein where
> you
> > don't have to change it into something different. Im not sure what you
> are
> > so worried about, as IBM cloud is an easy api and on our todolist. If you
> > actually try an existing java community and find it a bad fit, submit
> your
> > apache incubator proposal.
> >
> > My 2p
> > Adrian
> >
> > On May 20, 2010 10:36 AM, "Eric Woods" <woodstae@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I've been following this discussion about libcloud's future direction
> very
> > closely, and thank you all for the great input.  I'm trying to make sense
> > of
> > all this and how it relates to the Java development.  I'm still very
> > interested in developing a Java code base for libcloud, but I'm not
> getting
> > a clear sense of the community's support.  I, of course, don't want to
> > spend
> > the development time and effort writing a Java version of libcloud if the
> > community doesn't support it.
> >
> > What are your thoughts on Java development as a sub-project of Apache
> > libcloud?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Eric
> >
>

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