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From Matthew Sacks <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Retire the Kitty Project
Date Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:45:40 GMT
Can the project be worked on in apache extras?

I don't see this becoming a tlp without involvement from a company that uses and produces
a lot of java software which would benefit from a tool like this and contribute alongside
like individuals like Ale.

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Alessandro Novarini <> wrote:

>Hi Kevan,
>I think you correctly understood my earlier comment, but now I'll explain
>better (hopefully) the reason why I voted -1.
>I will perfectly fine if we all vote to retire the project. In that case,
>I'd like to have your blessing to keep working on that outside Apache.
>But... if we have feedback that I'm not the only one interested in keeping
>working on that in some way, I will be the happiest person on earth to keep
>Kitty in Apache.
>Of course in 4 months there hasn't been any commit, I was the only "active"
>committer, until I got a lot busy on non-technical issues, somehow sorted
>and I have to say that the development has started again. I'm not sure when
>I'll commit the last changes as those impacts a lot on the codebase and I
>can't release any partial change, so if you're interested please be patient.
>And however, even if I took up committing again, that wouldn't be enough.
>To be honest I don't think the situation will change very soon, so I'm
>pretty much sure that Kitty will be retired. But I won't be the one who
>accepted it as a matter of fact :)
>Does it make my vote clearer?
>Sorry for the confusion
>On 9 July 2012 15:09, Kevan Miller <> wrote:
>> On Jul 9, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Alessandro Novarini wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Thanks for the quick answer.
>> >
>> > My cast is -1
>> >
>> > The reason, as you may guess, is that I'm still interested on the the
>> > development of the project, and I hope it will get the attention it
>> > deserves.
>> >
>> > As a last resort, my intention is to keep working on it outside Apache;
>> but
>> > I'd rather work on it in…
>> Hi Ale,
>> Perhaps I misunderstood your earlier comments in the discussions…
>> There haven't been any commits on the project in nearly 4 months. Do you
>> see this changing, anytime soon?
>> If the project is showing signs of progress towards graduation, I'm OK to
>> see the project continue (and will continue to mentor). However, I'd like
>> to understand why/how we think things will change…
>> --kevan
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