From kato-dev-return-362-apmail-incubator-kato-dev-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Mon May 16 09:41:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-kato-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-kato-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C0ADB69F2 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 09:41:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 76760 invoked by uid 500); 16 May 2011 09:41:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-kato-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 76701 invoked by uid 500); 16 May 2011 09:41:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact kato-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: kato-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list kato-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 76685 invoked by uid 99); 16 May 2011 09:41:02 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 May 2011 09:41:02 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RFC_ABUSE_POST,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of spoole167@googlemail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.175] (HELO mail-iw0-f175.google.com) (209.85.214.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 May 2011 09:40:55 +0000 Received: by iwn10 with SMTP id 10so4107042iwn.6 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 02:40:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=srBEzPcZMu28T9zbGO5mgzzu86a43tdlT/twsRtq608=; b=xqV13DWb5caaUyAuJYA0afrJC4ZJx/77WwCYhLaiVGNXfB0eXcNJuav11QInGIIxo9 V4S7Vynx/T4Kz35FRpT94Hq+A2CnhzJXVjcwYn6f0DgW24UjSGv/aU7GHQTtzAs29l5Q 9d2tWLPxBsSl22l4MoiLD8iwZ2cYAEvtjqRZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kMh5H8Ey0E9TEwr1mf5y42lbA78IYZzeoXgB1gkKvZaWfayKU2jfwZEOkMsVhVXjaa BfDJoqXekT/kK12i8czSTBXWWi2T2ncRN/XI9POc79DmR51BF8Bql3b9mD9m84PWZQ2R q/qyJbt+1WwFeGz9+R25sMix7R7AlIsHEMwMA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.123.141 with SMTP id p13mr3064107ibr.29.1305538834311; Mon, 16 May 2011 02:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.119.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2011 02:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:40:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Status and a question From: Steve Poole To: kato-spec@incubator.apache.org, kato-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e647630675aaff04a3617258 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --0016e647630675aaff04a3617258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Looks like we are finally onto the last mile - one way or other I should have Oracle's final decision in my hands within the next 8 weeks. That's a long time I know but we've waited a year so far. Here's my question to anyone still listening: If Oracle say they will not pariticipate at all, or not in the next 12 months what should we do? For your deliberations you should be aware that I'm working in the OpenJDK space now. Some of our technical limitations (where we needed Oracle to do something for us in the JVM) may be solvable simply by doing the work ourselves (outside Apache) and submitting to OpenJDK. Options include : 1 - Retiring this podling full stop. 2 - Move the work to OpenJDK and possibly attempt to get JSR 326 into JDK8. 3 - Defering or dropping the "JSR" part of this project work and just focusing on producing a high quality codebase that solves peoples problems. Tell me what you think. -- Steve --0016e647630675aaff04a3617258--