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From Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <>
Subject Re: Simplify OOTB deployment for new users?
Date Sun, 09 Dec 2012 21:26:40 GMT
Hi Glen,

latest commit puts http://localhost:8080/JSPWiki as the default
jspwiki.baseUrl value. I haven't changed the other values as they could be
overrided via but if you think that's not enough we can
take a look at it.

juan pablo

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Glen Mazza <> wrote:

> Harry, personally at least, I've never needed to do that, at least not
> with my setup (JDK 7 and Tomcat 7 on Ubuntu Linux) -- just dump the WAR in
> webapps and it expands fine.  You may wish to try again with a newer Tomcat
> maybe.  I would say that would be a Tomcat bug if it couldn't expand the
> WAR properly.
> It will get better once we can Mavenize (and I hope to put in some time to
> help in that regard), during development/debugging/testing it will just be
> c:\mvn tomcat7:deploy for a standalone Tomcat or c:\mvn tomcat7:run-war for
> an embedded Tomcat deployment, in the latter case you won't even need to
> have Tomcat installed on your machine, but in either case we can avoid the
> step of needing to go to file managers and copying/pasting the build/WAR to
> the webapps folder.
> Glen
> On 12/09/2012 01:03 PM, Harry Metske wrote:
>> +1 on the proposed changes for the default settings.
>> There is however still an issue with JSPWiki that makes it unsuitable for
>> a
>> plain war deployment, you always have to unzip the war into the tomcat
>> webapps dir to make it work, but I can't find out why this was the case.
>> regards,
>> Harry
>> On 9 December 2012 15:23, Glen Mazza <> wrote:
>>  Hi all, JSPWiki is presently nicely configured for (1) those who already
>>> know what they're doing and have JSPWiki in production already, but can
>>> be
>>> problematic for (2) newbie evaluators who just want to place a WAR in the
>>> Tomcat and see what JSPWiki looks like and (3) newbie patch submitters
>>> who
>>> have to do debugging but are annoyed at needing to re-enter
>>> configuration,
>>> authorization and test page info everytime they want to deploy a new WAR.
>>>   I believe OOTB configuration should be better suited for (2) and (3) as
>>> the users in (1) already know how to configure their
>>>****properties.impl files and nearly
>>> invariably
>>> have to do so anyway for their production deployments.
>>> I was thinking we should maybe update our file
>>> with the following changes:
>>> -jspwiki.baseURL=
>>> +jspwiki.baseURL=http://****localhost:8080/JSPWiki<http://**
>>> localhost:8080/JSPWiki <http://localhost:8080/JSPWiki>>
>>> -#jspwiki.workDir =
>>> +jspwiki.workDir = myJSPWikiDir
>>> -jspwiki.fileSystemProvider.****pageDir = @pagedir@
>>> +jspwiki.fileSystemProvider.****pageDir = myJSPWikiDir/p/web/www-data/**
>>> jspwiki/
>>> -jspwiki.****basicAttachmentProvider.****storageDir = @pagedir@
>>> +jspwiki.****basicAttachmentProvider.****storageDir =
>>> myJSPWikiDir/p/web/www-data/****jspwiki/
>>> For incoming newbies in (2), we have a narrow window when they're
>>> evaluating a Wiki for their corporate intranets and anything we can do to
>>> shrink the soap opera between generating a WAR and viewing it from their
>>> local Tomcat would be a good thing.  Here, all we have to say is generate
>>> the WAR (if they haven't downloaded it anyway from the distribution) and
>>> dump in their local Tomcat and they can view it at
>>> http://localhost:8080/JSPWiki and they're done.  Couldn't be simpler.
>>>   While a URL of http://localhost:8080/JSPWiki may not work for *all*
>>> newbies, it's far and away the most common URL for someone prototyping on
>>> their local machine with Tomcat, sharply reducing the % who will still
>>> need
>>> to configure the file.
>>> Also, combining all files that JSPWiki creates into one place
>>> "myJSPWikiDir" (or whatever you'd want to call it) that Tomcat nicely
>>> creates in the user's home folder helps them easily see all of JSPWiki's
>>> internal moving parts while remaining fully comfortable that JSPWiki
>>> isn't
>>> dumping files in system folders that they're going to have trouble
>>> finding
>>> and cleaning out later.  It's uncomfortable/unnerving to newcomers to see
>>> OOTB JSPWiki placing files in the "/p/web/..." of their root system drive
>>> (a folder system the average user might not have permission to anyway),
>>> especially for something they're just evaluating locally.
>>> For developers in (3),  these above settings work great for me during
>>> testing and debugging on my local standalone Tomcat, I just need to drop
>>> the generated WAR in Tomcat each time I do an "ant war" without needing
>>> to
>>> bother to reconfigure the file each time.  This,
>>> however, took me quite a while to figure out on my own and I'd like to
>>> have
>>> this setup OOTB for any quick patch submitter without them needing to go
>>> through similar initial headaches.
>>> Regards,
>>> Glen

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