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From Janne Jalkanen <>
Subject Re: [jira] Created: (JSPWIKI-376) Move from log4j to slf4j
Date Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:07:27 GMT
> The point I was making is that regardless of SLF4J's benefits, it is
> still Yet Another Jar File. Given that almost *all* of the software
> we are currently using in almost all of our projects (i.e., those
> based in Java) uses log4j, we don't really need any additional choice
> of logging system. log4j is very simple to set up and we've had no
> problem with it.

But the problem is that it does not work for a whole lot of other  
people.  While you can afford to ignore that feedback, some of us  
have to deal with it on a regular basis...

> You solicited feedback on the proposal so I have provided that  
> feedback.

So noted ;-).

> As I wrote, I would much prefer we keep things simpler rather than  
> not,
> as JSPWiki's code base is getting remarkably more complicated as we
> move to 3.0.

Actually, I think it's going to be simpler than 2.8... We'll have  
more clean separation between the repository and the rendering.   
Stripes allows us to get rid of the Command superstructure (and  
replace it with a simple-to-understand ActionBean structure).  The  
API will make things more stable.

> It's not the friendly little software package it was a
> few years ago.

Well... All of our previous versions are still available ;-)


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