Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-jspwiki-dev-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 88389 invoked from network); 12 May 2008 08:47:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 12 May 2008 08:47:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 13123 invoked by uid 500); 12 May 2008 08:47:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-jspwiki-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 13060 invoked by uid 500); 12 May 2008 08:47:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jspwiki-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: jspwiki-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list jspwiki-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 13049 invoked by uid 99); 12 May 2008 08:47:21 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 May 2008 01:47:21 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of murray07@altheim.com designates 69.90.72.72 as permitted sender) Received: from [69.90.72.72] (HELO athens.clusterspan.net) (69.90.72.72) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 May 2008 08:46:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 29710 invoked from network); 12 May 2008 04:46:44 -0400 Received: from ip-118-90-101-26.xdsl.xnet.co.nz (HELO ?192.168.1.64?) (118.90.101.26) by athens.clusterspan.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 12 May 2008 04:46:44 -0400 Message-ID: <482803F1.3030405@altheim.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:46:41 +1200 From: Murray Altheim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jspwiki-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-42) Change WikiWizard license into Apache References: <14537225.1195404163303.JavaMail.jira@brutus> <319609894.1210526875707.JavaMail.jira@brutus> <3a6c97f00805120109l2cb94250h679c12051f39813c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a6c97f00805120109l2cb94250h679c12051f39813c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Harry Metske wrote: > As for as I'm concerned it can be removed, I don't want to rely on anything > on the client except a standard browser. > Also, a wiki should be lightweight, and it is already "heavy" enough with > the current java scripts. > I don't use it anywhere, and I don't plan to. -1 I personally agree with Harry but unfortunately should probably make a plea for its continuation if at all possible, despite not being able to provide any support for it timewise nor expertise-wise, as I have little experience with JavaScript.,Sadly, in our recent evaluation people (who are not widely experienced with wikis) nevertheless felt that WYSIWYG was an important feature, enough so that in the points scoring JSPWiki might not have passed muster if it didn't have WYSIWYG [and please don't judge me by the survey results -- I disagree quite vehemently with *requiring* a wiki to provide WYSIWYG editing support, but I was just a minor peep in that barren management wilderness.] Point is, when decision makers decide which wiki to use they'll often think "WYSIWYG editing" should be listed as a requirement for adoption of a wiki, and if JSPWiki didn't have it there might be a migration to other wiki applications that do. If that's enough of an issue to rally to its cause, I dunno. Murray > 2008/5/11 Janne Jalkanen (JIRA) : > >> [ >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-42?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12595924#action_12595924] >> >> Janne Jalkanen commented on JSPWIKI-42: >> --------------------------------------- >> >> Ping? Anyone? Shall we remove WikiWizard? ........................................................................... Murray Altheim === = = http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = = === SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk = = = = Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes, Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light, The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses, Knock at any door - there's one who will respond. -- The Blue Cliff Record