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From "Harry Metske" <harry.met...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: author-tags Was: Trunk is now open for 2.8 stuff.
Date Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:04:52 GMT
I tend to agree with Dave, Craig and Janne.
Anyone else good arguments or experiences ?
Should we vote ?

If it is common practice in many other (ASF) projects, I think we should do
the same.

Harry

2008/3/31, Dave Wolf <dave.wolf@gmail.com>:
>
> IMHO, if the rest of Apache projects don't use the author tags (whether it
> is enforced or not), then for consistency we shouldn't either. It would be
> confusing to new folks.
>
> Additionally, (again opinion) an open source project should not be tied to
> individuals, so I agree with Janne that questions should go to the lists.
> If
> someone who has knowledge is still active then they can respond. If the
> author / knowledgeable person is no longer active, then the absence of a
> response might be informative to the wider community.
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Harry Metske <harry.metske@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> > I think we shouldn't dictate right now, how to deal with those
> conflicting
> > situations.
> > Is it very likely to occur ?
> > If it's not strictly necessary to make the choice now, I think we should
> > let
> > it free.
> >
> > But if anyone else on the list has a good reason to choose for an all-on
> > or
> > all-off, please speak up.
> >
> > regards,
> > Harry
> >
> > 2008/3/31, Janne Jalkanen <Janne.Jalkanen@ecyrd.com>:
> > >
> > >
> > > Then what do we do with new people if some of them insist to have the
> > > @author tag and some don't?
> > >
> > >
> > > /Janne
> > >
> > >
> > > On 31 Mar 2008, at 19:58, Harry Metske wrote:
> > > > Although I'm not a committer I'd like to comment :
> > > > I think both of you are right, there is code that is submitted
> > > > initially
> > > > fairly complete, and is not patched much afterwards, and if it is
> > > > patched,
> > > > it is only small bug fixes. In those cases you would want to keep
> the
> > > > @author tags.
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand there is code that is initially submitted as a
> > > > simple
> > > > first prototype, and is afterwards greatly enhance by others. In
> > > > those cases
> > > > you should remove the @author tags.
> > > >
> > > > If it is not exactly mandated by ASF how to deal with, let everyone
> > > > decide
> > > > for himself how to handle it, and you don't have to handle every
> > > > piece of
> > > > code the same, for some pieces keep your @author tag, for others
> > > > remove them
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > How about that, everybody happy ?
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > Harry
> > > >
> > > > 2008/3/31, Janne Jalkanen <Janne.Jalkanen@ecyrd.com>:
> > > >>
> > > >>>> Case in point: The author of LuceneSearchProvider has not
> > > >>>> contributed anything in what, two years?  Yet he still stands
in
> > > >>>> as the @author.  Would you go to him to ask for help, or should
> > > >>>> you go to the mailing list?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'd ask the list, but I would likewise *know* that the author
> hasn't
> > > >>> been seen for two years, information that would be lost if the
> > > >>> tag had
> > > >>> been removed.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> The @author tag does not encode that information.  Therefore,
> nothing
> > > >> would be lost, if it were removed (and it might probably be a good
> > > >> idea to remove it at that stage).
> > > >>
> > > >> The code should really stand on its own legs.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> You're saying you have your name on code you don't understand?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes.  Other people have modified code for which I am still the
> > > >> @author, and I can't really claim that I know what that code does
> > > >> anymore...  And I'm pretty sure I have modified a lot of the code
> > > >> that other people claim to be @author of, and they no longer have
> any
> > > >> idea what is going on.
> > > >>
> > > >> That's how it goes with projects that have been running for nearly
> > > >> seven years now.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> /Janne
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > met vriendelijke groet,
> > > > Harry Metske
> > > > Telnr. +31-548-512395
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Harry Metske
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> >
>
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