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From "Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez" <>
Subject Re: JSPWiki 2.6.0 release
Date Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:58:30 GMT
Hi all,

I've been tinkering with webtests awhile from now. The thing is, once you
manage to make them (JWebUnit) run, via Eclipse or Ant, you'll see about 60%
of them will fail because they make assertions against unlocalized text (aka
2.4.x template). This is the biggest issue with them, IMHO. Also, I've seen
that  JWebUnit + JUnit 3.8.x has some difficulties parsing mootools library
(JUnit 4.3 seems to be ok). Regarding the fact of launching webtests via Ant
script: I haven't been able to look at it, but Andrew's commit at
2.5.158should help get them running.

I've began to translate web tests to JMeter, but just now there is only a
simple Login&Logout web-test. I'll gladly translate them gradually but -and
it's a very big but-, for the next 3 weeks I'm not going to be able to work
too much on them (sorry for the screamings there on Finland, :-s), ie: today
I've arrived home at 22.30 from work, and it seems it's not going to change
in the following weeks, so the time I can put into it is mostly dawn /
weekends (for several reasons, 5 out 10 people in my project switched job
with deadline 3 weeks ahead.. urg). I haven't look into Selenium very
deeply, but if anyone want's to, it can be another option, right now there
are only 2 out of 16 webtests translated.

Besides of that, I found that JMeter isn't exactly intuitive at first but,
once you get it, it's very straightforward. If someone is interested, this
a very good starting point on this tool. JWebUnit tests were also
making report files at tests/reports, and they've been for me the place to
look at when something were wrong with them.

Finally, on 2.6.0: I'll give a +1 on that. Janne, Dirk & all: you've put a
huge amount of work on that to happen. I'd like to see David's Au patch on
FCK and ShortUrlConstructor but, right now, I feel I do speak too much and
commit not so much (and I'd really like to have the time to make it the
opposite), so it's more a wish than show-stopper :-)


2007/11/26, Craig L Russell <>:
> Hi Murray,
> Distributions of Apache projects must follow this guidance: http://
> JUnit uses the Common Public License which is an Apache Category B
> license, suitable for distribution by an Apache project as a binary.
> If an Apache project uses LGPL libraries, it must not distribute
> them. And although it's not an absolute rule, a project that uses
> LGPL won't graduate from incubation.
> Craig
> On Nov 26, 2007, at 12:57 PM, Murray Altheim wrote:
> > Janne Jalkanen wrote:
> > [...]
> >> The question is: who can commit time to fix our web unit tests
> >> using whatever they fancy, if we consider that to be the only
> >> blocking factor for 2.6 release?  If the answer involves any of
> >> the words "nobody", "christmas", or "holiday", I'm going to a)
> >> scream, and b) release.  May be sloppy, but really - our webtests
> >> are in a really, really awful shape.
> >
> > Janne,
> >
> > I suppose one question is permitted from the ignorant: I realize
> > Apache
> > wants everything to be Apache-licensed, but LGPL is hardly a problem
> > license. Is there a *hard* requirement that everything released as
> > part
> > of an Apache software project be *all* Apache-licensed? I.e., is it
> > possible we could continue to use JUnit? It's what we all know and if
> > we were able to put any time into fixing unit tests I'd personally
> > rather invest that time into fixing tests than learning Yet Another
> > Software Package. Another alternative (at least for the interim) is
> > that
> > we continue to use JUnit but not include those files in the Apache
> > distribution. If that's possible it would give us a window at least.
> >
> > Murray
> >
> > ......................................................................
> > .....
> > Murray Altheim <murray07 at>
> > ===  = =
> >
> > = =  ===
> > SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk
> > = =  = =
> >
> >       Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
> >       Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
> >       The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
> >       Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
> >                                       -- The Blue Cliff Record
> Craig Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System
> 408 276-5638
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

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