Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-jena-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-jena-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B03CD9A62 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 00:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6140 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2012 00:37:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-jena-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 6081 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2012 00:37:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jena-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: jena-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list jena-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 6073 invoked by uid 99); 1 Mar 2012 00:37:25 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 00:37:25 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.215.47] (HELO mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com) (209.85.215.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 00:37:17 +0000 Received: by lagw12 with SMTP id w12so52617lag.6 for ; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:36:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lsimons@jicarilla.nl designates 10.112.38.135 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.112.38.135; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lsimons@jicarilla.nl designates 10.112.38.135 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lsimons@jicarilla.nl Received: from mr.google.com ([10.112.38.135]) by 10.112.38.135 with SMTP id g7mr1243788lbk.28.1330562217516 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:36:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.38.135 with SMTP id g7mr1020832lbk.28.1330562217436; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:36:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.55.135 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:36:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F4E1482.4060000@apache.org> References: <4F4E1482.4060000@apache.org> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 01:36:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility From: Leo Simons To: jena-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnPj9Cd+JXYKgvv+O+sXgQeqinDaiAXytaw2JJJEPJx5Y79LY0IMdRGu8PkB7xG8JyyAjhU X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hey folks, On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Andy Seaborne wrote: > A discussion on general@i > > It will resolve whether we have to repackage Jena to graduate. Looks like the e-mail threads are maybe fragmented across lists or something I can't get a clear picture. Or maybe I'm just tired. Apologies if others said this already, but, just to be clear... You don't have to repackage jena to graduate. That was never the case and it's not going to be the case. I'll bite heads off if someone tries to roll in some draconian policy. If for some crazy reason some committee decides the policy is to change, we'll get a policy exception. We discussed this issue at some length as a community and considered all the aspects of it diligently. Now there are some reasonable plans and ideas for how to handle it. Resolved. Done. Go make nice things :) cheers, Leo (as an aside, hadoop and related projects are in a bit of a different situation with potentially conflicting interests from loads of commercial parties and that can create tons of pressure; apache needs to guard against making a mess there...so it's conceivable the decision for sqoop ought to be different to jena, I dunno the details...)