Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-jena-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 46035 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2010 13:35:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 7 Dec 2010 13:35:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 4565 invoked by uid 500); 7 Dec 2010 13:35:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-jena-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 4546 invoked by uid 500); 7 Dec 2010 13:35:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jena-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: jena-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list jena-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 4538 invoked by uid 99); 7 Dec 2010 13:35:03 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 13:35:03 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [82.71.204.226] (HELO cpanelsmarthost2.zen.co.uk) (82.71.204.226) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 13:34:55 +0000 Received: from [82.71.204.9] (helo=zencphosting06.zen.co.uk) by cpanelsmarthost2.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPxgf-0001mC-L8 for jena-dev@incubator.apache.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 13:34:33 +0000 Received: from 5e07962c.bb.sky.com ([94.7.150.44] helo=[192.168.0.5]) by zencphosting06.zen.co.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPxgf-000315-9r for jena-dev@incubator.apache.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 13:34:33 +0000 Subject: Re: jena-users lists (Re: Dont' fork the dev lists) References: <4CFD6D1B.4010701@epimorphics.com> <4CFE05D4.5090603@apache.org> <4CFE09F0.7020208@epimorphics.com> <4CFE0F4A.2060406@apache.org> <1291720078.2595.17.camel@dave-desktop> From: Ross Gardler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: <1291720078.2595.17.camel@dave-desktop> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 13:34:06 +0000 To: "jena-dev@incubator.apache.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - zencphosting06.zen.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apache.org Sorry for top posting (on mobile) The sooner we start migration the sooner we finish. Of course we need to be s= ensitive about that (I'm pushing hard, tell me when I'm unreasonable).=20 Migration from the @incubator list to @apache lists is automatic and transpa= rent upon graduation.=20 Sent from my mobile device. On 7 Dec 2010, at 11:07, Dave Reynolds wrote: > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 10:41 +0000, Ross Gardler wrote:=20 >> On 07/12/2010 10:18, Andy Seaborne wrote: >=20 >>> jena-users@incubator.apache.org wil be the users list. >>=20 >> -1 >>=20 >> jena-users@incubator.apache.org *is* the users list >=20 > A tangent to the primary discussion but wanted to clarify this point ... >=20 > Leo seemed to be suggesting that moving *users* from the current > (confusingly named) users' list would typically start in a few months > time rather than immediately. Are you saying we should start trying to > migrate much sooner than that? >=20 > Second, the use of "incubator" in the mail list name is surprising, not > a problem for developers but for users this two-step migration (first > into incubator and then out) risks fragmenting user support. Is there > some automation that supports users list migration when graduating? >=20 > Dave >=20