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From Mohammad Nour El-Din <nour.moham...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Urgent help Needed with LGPL library used in Apache Isis - (was: Re: [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-81) Is it ok/meaningful to have a dependency licensed as ASL just for Apache Software Foundation, but LGPL for anyone else?)
Date Wed, 01 Jun 2011 09:17:56 GMT
Hi Dan...

   Thanks for the update, and IMHO if Sergey is not ready to do that,
so the approach you took is the correct one. But this will lead, and I
am sorry to say that, to vote (-1) on RC2 and we should start a new
one after [1] is being resolved. But believe me, thats very normal and
it happens all the time even in TLP projects :), so don't make
something out of this to disappoint you ;).

[1] - http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-97

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:47 PM, dan haywood
<dan@haywood-associates.co.uk> wrote:
> Rather than hassle poor Sergey, I've gone ahead and removed this dependency
> and instead replaced it with a dependency on jQuery (which has an
> unambiguously acceptable license).  See ISIS-97, [1].
>
> Note: this change is not in 0.1.2-RC2-incubating (still awaiting votes on
> that, by the way); if people feel strongly on this issue then vote -1 on RC2
> and I'll cut an RC3 which includes the above change.
>
> Dan
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-97
>
> ~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> On 31 May 2011 18:35, Mohammad Nour El-Din <nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> FYI
>>
>>   Dan, I guess we should get in contact with Sergey and get him file
>> either an ICLA or an SGA.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: Urgent help Needed with LGPL library used in Apache Isis
>> - (was: Re: [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-81) Is it ok/meaningful to have
>> a dependency licensed as ASL just for Apache Software Foundation, but
>> LGPL for anyone else?)
>> To: legal-discuss@apache.org
>>
>>
>> If it's entirely his, I believe that an iCLA or an SGA are
>> equivalently effective, and at least one is required.
>>
>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>> <nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all...
>> >
>> >   Please help in what is explained below.
>> >
>> > Brief:
>> >
>> >   1- In Apache Isis [1], we are using an XmlHttpRequest library [2]
>> > which is currently licensed under LGPL.
>> >   2- The main developer of that library has sent us an e-mail [3]
>> > saying that he agrees on dual licensing it under ASL v2.0.
>> >
>> > The question is:
>> >
>> > Is that enough, or we need him to file an SGA ? Provided that till
>> > this moment he didn't update the library's web site to indicate that
>> > dual licensing.
>> >
>> > Looking forward to your reply.
>> >
>> > [1] - http://incubator.apache.org/isis
>> > [2] - http://code.google.com/p/xmlhttprequest/
>> > [3] - http://markmail.org/message/6j4jgckcct72ot3f
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>> > <nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi All...
>> >>
>> >>   For the issue mentioned below, would it be OK and acceptable to use
>> >> that library if the developer of [1] filed a SGA [2] with ASF ?.
>> >> Looking forward to your reply.
>> >>
>> >> [1] - http://code.google.com/p/xmlhttprequest/
>> >> [2] - http://www.apache.org/licenses/#grants
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Mohammad Nour (JIRA) <jira@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>    [
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-81?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13036093#comment-13036093]
>> >>>
>> >>> Mohammad Nour commented on LEGAL-81:
>> >>> ------------------------------------
>> >>>
>> >>> Now Sergey has sent us an e-mail confirming that he agrees on dual
>> licensing his code under both ASL v2.0 additionally to LGPL. Now the
>> question is:
>> >>>
>> >>> Is that enough ? Or we need to do a more formal action like make him
>> sign some paper work for example ?
>> >>>
>> >>> Notice that he didn't update his site [1] yet to reflect that
>> information.
>> >>>
>> >>> [1] - http://code.google.com/p/xmlhttprequest/
>> >>>
>> >>>> Is it ok/meaningful to have a dependency licensed as ASL just for
>> Apache Software Foundation, but LGPL for anyone else?
>> >>>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>
>> >>>>                 Key: LEGAL-81
>> >>>>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-81
>> >>>>             Project: Legal Discuss
>> >>>>          Issue Type: Question
>> >>>>            Reporter: Dan Haywood
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We are in the process of setting up Apache Isis into the incubator
>> (the code prior to Apache being called the Naked Objects Framework and
>> sister projects).
>> >>>> I've now realized that one of the modules has a small dependency
on
>> code that has an LGPL license (a small Javascript file) that would be part
>> of the distribution.  Since my understanding was that LGPL is not ASL 2
>> compatible, I contacted the developer about whether he might consider moving
>> to ASL.  His response was to grant permission as follows:
>> >>>> -begin-
>> >>>> Yes, I authorize "NO framework and your sister projects accepted
 [2]
>> into the Apache incubator" to use my XMLHttpRequest.js library (available at
>> the http://code.google.com/p/xmlhttprequest/  and currently licensed under
>> LGPL) with the ASL license.
>> >>>> [2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IsisProposal.
>> >>>> -end-
>> >>>> So, my question is: is this sufficient for us?
>> >>>> Many thanks,
>> >>>> Dan Haywood
>> >>>
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>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thanks
>> >> - Mohammad Nour
>> >>   Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User
>> Guide)
>> >>   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
>> >> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
>> >> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
>> >> ----
>> >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
>> moving"
>> >> - Albert Einstein
>> >>
>> >> "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a
>> >> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
>> >> than your best."
>> >> - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship
>> >>
>> >> "Stay hungry, stay foolish."
>> >> - Steve Jobs
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks
>> > - Mohammad Nour
>> >   Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User
>> Guide)
>> >   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
>> > - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
>> > - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
>> > ----
>> > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
>> moving"
>> > - Albert Einstein
>> >
>> > "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a
>> > professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
>> > than your best."
>> > - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship
>> >
>> > "Stay hungry, stay foolish."
>> > - Steve Jobs
>> >
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>>
>> --
>> Thanks
>> - Mohammad Nour
>>   Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide)
>>   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
>> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
>> ----
>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
>> - Albert Einstein
>>
>> "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a
>> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
>> than your best."
>> - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship
>>
>> "Stay hungry, stay foolish."
>> - Steve Jobs
>>
>



-- 
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
  Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide)
  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
- Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein

"Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a
professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
than your best."
- Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship

"Stay hungry, stay foolish."
- Steve Jobs

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