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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 17:23:06 +0000 (GMT)
From: Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: XmlHttpRequest licensing
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If we are _not_ distributing this project but only _using_ it, then it woul=
d be no problem at all. LGPL projects might be used this way.

Of course, if he kindly gave us permission to relicense it under ASL, then =
we might also package it into our distribution bundles.

Not 100% sure though whether/where we need to put this on file.
I'd say we contact legal@a.o, just to be sure.

LieGrue,
strub


--- On Wed, 10/6/10, Dan Haywood <dkhaywood@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Dan Haywood <dkhaywood@gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: Re: XmlHttpRequest licensing
To: isis-dev@incubator.apache.org
Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 4:51 PM


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  Dear mentors,

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    I've realized that one of my sister projects (restful objects) has a
    dependency on some LGPL software.

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    Per the email chain below, I contacted the developer, Sergey
    Ilinsky, who has granted us permission with the words below:

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    Yes, I authorize "NO framework and your sister projects accepted
      [2] into the Apache incubator" to use my XMLHttpRequest.js library
      (available at the=A0http://code.google.com/p/xmlhttprequest/
      and currently licensed under LGPL) with the ASL license.=20

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    Does this make sense legally, and is it enough to put on file?=A0=A0 Or
    would he need to formally license his software under ASL from his
    main website (and if he's not happy, then I'd need to yank it and
    use something else instead).

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    Thanks,

    Dan

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          Dan Haywood <dkhaywood@gmail.com>
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    Sergey,

    Thank you very much for your prompt reply, and for granting us this
    permission.

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    I'm still learning the ropes at Apache, so I'll need to double check
    that the statement below suffices (and legally makes sense) but I
    would hope it would.

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    ~~~

    Just had a quick glance at your Ample SDK; I'm always on the lookout
    for new frameworks that target the UI experience.=A0 It might work
    quite well as an alternative default front-end for my restful
    interface.=A0 Just added it to the Isis wiki.=A0 But whatever, good luc=
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    with build up a community for it.

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    Thanks again,

    Dan

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    On 06/10/2010 17:18, Sergey Ilinsky wrote:
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        Dan,
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        Yes, I authorize "NO framework and your sister projects accepted
        [2] into the Apache incubator" to use my XMLHttpRequest.js
        library (available at the=A0http://code.google.com/p/xmlhttprequest=
/
        and currently licensed under LGPL) with the ASL license.
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        BTW, you may be interested in looking into another project
          I recently started - Ample SDK, Open-Source JavaScript GUI
          Framework http://www.amplesdk.com
          There are already several businesses using it for their
          benefit!
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        Sergey/
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          On 6 October 2010 18:10, Dan Haywood
            <dkhaywood@gmail.com>
            wrote:

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               Hi Sergey,

                I came across your XMLHttpRequest a while back while
                writing my book [1] on the Java Naked Objects framework
                (perhaps you've heard of it, but then again, perhaps
                not) and incorporated it into some companion "sister"
                project to expose a RESTful interface to an NO domain
                model.

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                Fast forward a year, and we've had the NO framework and
                my sister projects accepted [2] into the Apache
                incubator.

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                Anyway... one of the requirements for Apache is that all
                dependencies must be ASL or equivalent.=A0 I see that
                you've changed the license on XMLHttpRequest from GPL to
                LGPL, but LGPL doesn't quite cut-it for Apache.

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                So, my question is... would you be willing to further
                change your license from LGPL to ASL?=A0 Otherwise I guess
                I'll need to reimplement, but it's a shame to do so
                given such a good piece of work is already out there.

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                Many thanks,

                Dan Haywood

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                [1] http://pragprog.com/titles/dhnako

                [2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IsisProposal.

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