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From Erik Bengtson <e...@jpox.org>
Subject Re: Future of Imperius
Date Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:09:51 GMT
I would like to contribute more, but there is no clear roadmap/vision.
I keep asking to myself, if imperius is already full featured and only
needs maintenance and support ?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:55 PM, David Wood <dawood@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> +1, I'm debugging through Java bindings as we speak...
>
> David Wood
> Policy Technologies Group
> IBM TJ Watson Research Center
> dawood@us.ibm.com
> 914-784-5123 (office), 914-396-6515 (mobile)
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>
> From:
> Craig L Russell <Craig.Russell@Sun.COM>
> To:
> imperius-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Date:
> 03/24/2010 01:39 PM
> Subject:
> Re: Future of Imperius
> Sent by:
> Craig.Russell@Sun.COM
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> It looks like the community is small (11 committers including 4
> mentors), but they have been able to produce a release that was voted
> and shipped. Not a small task considering everything.
>
> I'd say it's time to see if there is enough diversity and an
> interested enough community to graduate Imperius as a top level
> project. I don't see another TLP that would be a good fit.
>
> The diversity standard is three committers independent of each other.
>  From what I know, there are two major organizations, Sun(Oracle) and
> IBM who are involved, and I know there are unaffiliated committers,
> but I don't know the affiliations of most of the non-Sun(Oracle), non-
> IBM folks.
>
> Who is out there who is interested in continuing to be part of the
> community? Please speak up now. Like by April 1.
>
> I agree with Kevan that we should announce the result of this thread
> in our April report to the incubator and make a decision by July on
> whether to shut this down or graduate it.
>
> Craig
>
> On Mar 24, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>
>> Oops. Let this slip by without responding... Apologies.
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2010, at 1:59 PM, David L Kaminsky wrote:
>>> I think the lack of response to this e-mail kind of summarizes the
>>> state pretty well.
>>>
>> :)
>>>
>>> IMO, Imperius is an excellent implementation of a policy engine,
>>> but either (a) it hasn't been well publicized, so only a small
>>> number of groups are using it, or (b) there is currently only a
>>> small group of potential users. Or some of both.
>>>
>> To be clear, my comments / questions have nothing to do with the
>> quality of the Imperius implementation nor with any of the
>> committers on the project.
>>>
>>> That puts the project in an intermediate state -- a small user
>>> base, perhaps growing very slowing, but with no immediate
>>> expectation of accelerating growth.
>>>
>>> If there were a substantial cost to keeping Imperius going, I think
>>> it would make sense to shut it down. However, I don't think that's
>>> true.
>>>
>>> Unless there's a clear reason to shut it down -- and perhaps there
>>> is one -- I'd suggest just seeing how it goes for awhile. I'd also
>>> wonder if there are ways to better publicize the work.
>>>
>>> Anyway, just my 2 cents ...
>>>
>> Apache is interested in fostering healthy, diverse, meritocratic
>> communities around open source projects. Incubation is not intended
>> to be a never-ending process. I think we should put a timeline for
>> making a community decision.
>>
>> Our next board report is April. The subsequent report is July. I
>> propose we make the July Incubator board report a target for
>> reaching a decision about what we think should happen to the
>> Imperius community.
>>
>> What do others think?
>>
>> --kevan
>
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Oracle
> http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
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