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From Ted Leung <twle...@sauria.com>
Subject Re: What do do with Heraldy?
Date Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:24:46 GMT
That would pretty much be my read on the situation.   We should at  
least have a vote to make sure.   I'll start a vote thread.


On Feb 27, 2007, at 10:30 AM, Recordon, David wrote:

> I guess 12 days with no replies means we should tell the IPMC we're
> stopping incubation.
>
> --David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Recordon, David [mailto:drecordon@verisign.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:32 AM
> To: heraldry-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: What do do with Heraldy?
>
> Thanks Gav.  I'm actually on the road this week (ITU meeting in  
> Geneva)
> so haven't been up on my email as I should be.  With that said, I'm
> still unsure how to reply.
>
> I don't think it would make sense for us to try to continue  
> development
> of the library code if the authors are not going to be participating.
> This is especially amplified in terms of not having duplicate effort
> since JanRain will be continuing work on their libraries in a  
> different
> environment.
>
> As to Gary's message, I'm also unsure that the OpenID Provider code in
> Ruby by itself right now is enough to build a community since there is
> little activity on the codebase even though it has been deployed a few
> times from this SVN.
>
> My vision has always been to have this project as a place where people
> from various, even competing, identity projects can come together and
> build a community around code.  I'd have a hard time feeling  
> comfortable
> continuing with this if JanRain is not going to be participating.
>
> So at this point I'm at a loss...
>
> --David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gav.... [mailto:brightoncomputers@brightontown.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:25 AM
> To: heraldry-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: What do do with Heraldy?
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:wrowe@rowe-clan.net]
>> Sent: Monday, 12 February 2007 2:22 AM
>> To: heraldry-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: What do do with Heraldy?
>>
>> Greetings.
>>
>> Recordon, David wrote:
>>> I agree with Ted that those are the two main issues.  I think the
>>> difference is that the community is now ready to address them where
>>> we weren't in October.
>>
>> What's fascinating here is that I believe you speak for yourself and
>> with all sincerity that the issues are understood, and that you
>> personally are ready to meet those two challenges.
>
> David, Kevin & a couple of others have been great for this project.
> So thanks for a great job so far guys!
>
> <snip some stuff>
>
>> For purposes of this list, it's up to the remaining community to
>> decide what is next for Heraldry.  Based on David's optimism at the
>> beginning of my quotes above, as one voice from the PMC we'll  
>> leave it
>
>> to all the remaining participants to discuss and see exactly where
> that leads.
>>
>> Discuss.
>>
>> (That is what had been missing at the project in the first place, so
>> here's a wide open opportunity to remedy that.)
>
> Well, I have come out of my corner just to say it would be a shame if
> this Project folds from this ASF space. If others decide to leave and
> continue On elsewhere that is fine I guess, I just hope that there are
> enough left Here to continue on with what we have here.
>
> If there are others with the same opinion it could just work.
> So heres my +1 for continuance here at the ASF, and if I can help  
> Out in
> some small way I will.
>
>>
>> As a footnote, I'd been asked if I could help out here and help  
>> mentor
>
>> through some of these issues ...
>
> Thanks Bill, just what was needed. I am a little surprised to be the
> first To respond to this message after 3 days though, not inspiring.
>
> Gav...
>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
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