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From "Krall, Gary" <gkr...@verisign.com>
Subject RE: [VOTE] Stop incubation of Heraldry
Date Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:26:12 GMT
Ted:

Thanks.  I'll take a look.

Gary.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Leung [mailto:twleung@sauria.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:24 PM
To: heraldry-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Stop incubation of Heraldry


Gary,

See <http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html>

Ted

On Feb 28, 2007, at 4:19 PM, Krall, Gary wrote:

> Ted:
>
> I am very interested in specifically understanding what IP checks  
> the code in https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/heraldry/idp/ 
> pip/ is missing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Leung [mailto:twleung@sauria.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:16 PM
> To: heraldry-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Stop incubation of Heraldry
>
>
> Whether or not it is a shame is not the issue (and I believe it is a
> shame).  The issue is whether the existing Heraldry developer
> community is able to continue incubation.  The last 6 months of
> history suggest that it is not.
>
> This does not mean there will not be an OpenID project(s) at Apache.
> Go look at the web services projects, where we have several
> implementations of the same protocol stacks.
>
> The ASF is first and foremost concerned about the health of it's
> development communities.   If someone wants to build an Apache
> licensed OpenID stack(s), no one will stop them.   But I think that
> the historical record clearly shows that the current community is not
> healthy, and the silence of the last two weeks or so has just
> reinforced that impression.
>
> Also, none of the code that is currently in the Heraldry SVN has even
> passed the basic ASF IP checks.  I don't know if JanRain and Verisign
> would be interested in helping to clear that IP so that the project
> could go on.
>
> Ted
>
> On Feb 28, 2007, at 7:48 AM, Fen Labalme wrote:
>
>> -1
>>
>> I echo all of Johannes' comments.
>>
>> Johannes Ernst wrote:
>>> -1.
>>>
>>> Grabbing my own nose here for not having contributed more so
>>> far ... but
>>> I think it would be a shame.
>>>
>>> For example, with all the latest OpenID traction (Symantec,
>>> Microsoft,
>>> AOL ...) where would other Apache projects (Tomcat, HTTPD, ...) get
>>> their OpenID code from? It is a fair bet now that those types of
>>> projects would want to incorporate OpenID support natively rather
>>> sooner
>>> than later ...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2007, at 20:28, Ted Leung wrote:
>>>
>>>>> [X  ] +1 - Stop incubation of Heraldry
>>>>> [  ] +0 - I don't care
>>>>> [  ] -1 - I think Heraldry should continue to incubate.
>>>>
>>>


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