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From Scott Preece <pre...@yahoo-inc.com>
Subject Re: Fate of the hcatalog-dev list
Date Mon, 22 Jul 2013 22:47:12 GMT
I concur - change the mailing-lists page, send out notices, and turn off
the list.

Scott


On 7/22/13 5:03 PM, "Alan Gates" <gates@hortonworks.com> wrote:

>Any other thoughts?  So far only Vandana and I have weighed in.  If I
>don't hear any objections soon I'll declare that silence implies consent
>and file a ticket to drop these lists.
>
>Alan.
>
>On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Vandana Ayyalasomayajula wrote:
>
>> Hi Alan , 
>> 
>> Even I would suggest option 3. But first we need to update this page:
>> 
>> http://incubator.apache.org/hcatalog/mailing_lists.html#Users
>> 
>> to make sure when users look for mailing list, they are redirected to
>>dev@hive and user@hive. Also we should have a link to old
>> e-mail archives for users to search for any old mail threads.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Vandana
>> 
>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Alan Gates wrote:
>> 
>>> Now that HCatalog is part of Hive we need to be using Hive's dev and
>>>user lists (dev@hive.apache.org, user@hive.apache.org) rather than
>>>hcat-user and hcat-dev.  The question is how to wind down these list.
>>>As I see it we have three options:
>>> 
>>> 1) Merge each list into the Hive equivalent (eg hcat-dev -> dev@hive),
>>>moving all subscribers onto the appropriate Hive list.  The problem
>>>with this is that, prior to merging, hcat lists got ten or less
>>>messages a day.  Hive's lists generate 100+ messages a day.  Being
>>>involuntarily subscribed to a mailing list that generates that volume
>>>of mail is not user friendly.
>>> 
>>> 2) Forward each list to the Hive equivalent, but don't move the
>>>subscribers.  This has the weird effect that people will be sending
>>>messages to a list they may not be subscribed to and thus may not see
>>>the replies to their messages without them realizing it.
>>> 
>>> 3) Shut down this list with no forwarding after announcing every way
>>>we can think of that this list is replaced by dev@hive.  This way when
>>>people send an email it will bounce and they'll know they need to try
>>>somewhere else.
>>> 
>>> I vote for 3 because it avoids spamming people with massive extra mail
>>>and avoids people sending mail into what for them is a black hole.  But
>>>I'm open to arguments that that's the wrong approach.
>>> 
>>> Alan.
>> 
>


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