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From "Edward J. Yoon" <edwardy...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Lowering the barrier
Date Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:16:56 GMT
+1

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Thomas Jungblut
<thomas.jungblut@googlemail.com> wrote:
> This here could be a good beginner issue:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HAMA-445
>
> We have to add a better description. But actually this is a simple task
> just adding a configuration value in the BSPJob and reading it in the Peer.
>
> What do you think?
>
> 2011/11/4 Edward J. Yoon <edwardyoon@apache.org>
>
>> Good Idea.
>>
>> But, I think we have to fix HAMA-455 and cdh issues before prepare
>> guide. As I mentioned before, many people reports/asks them to me.
>>
>> 2011/11/4 ChiaHung Lin <chl501@nuk.edu.tw>:
>> > For the 1st issue, probably we should provide a step by step guide with
>> a simple example such as hello world. There we provides concrete setting
>> how the system is configured, including hdfs, bsp daemons, etc., and
>> execution steps because some users perhaps even have no clues what cluster
>> is. Concrete pictures, configuration setting, and a working example may
>> better illustrate what hama is and how it might work.
>> >
>> > For the second issue, a todo list linking to jira or threads may be a
>> bit cleaner for new comer to check if something they have interest. The
>> disadvantage is the list may need updated periodically.
>> >
>> > I would like to take on the first task if we think that's ok. But what
>> example we should take as some examples e.g. serialized printing are going
>> to be moved to test package?
>> >
>> > -----Original message-----
>> > From:Tommaso Teofili <tommaso.teofili@gmail.com>
>> > To:hama-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> > Date:Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:52:02 +0100
>> > Subject:Lowering the barrier
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> > I've been thinking about how to improve our community experience and
>> > attract new users and contributors for some time and I am quite sure we
>> > should, at least, try to do the following :
>> >
>> >   1. make our getting started guides much much more easy for someone who
>> >   doesn't have any clue about what, for instance, Hadoop is and how to
>> >   configure it; defining a more tiny and clear list of small steps in
>> order
>> >   to start Hama, the web interface, etc. I don't know if that's a common
>> >   opinion but it seems to me the 'quick start' page contains all the
>> needed
>> >   stuff to know to start Hama but for a new user it may be not so easy to
>> >   manage all that information.
>> >   2. allow more users to contribute creating small and self contained
>> >   issues. This was the way I started here at ASF: I didn't have a deep
>> >   understanding of each of the components of the first project I was
>> involved
>> >   with (Apache UIMA) but I found some small and trivial issues (a couple
>> of
>> >   lines of code to document / fix / create) I could start from and that
>> >   allowed me to get more familiar with the code and the insights of the
>> >   project AND at the same time this allowed the project committers to
>> care
>> >   more about bigger and more complex issues. The big design decisions and
>> >   improvements will be still handled by committers most of the times but
>> >   simpler things can be improved and taken from newcomers.
>> >
>> > One other thing could be improve how we present to the "public" with our
>> > website but it may be tricky, however there I suggest adding some
>> > screenshots/pictures for the architecture / BSP model.
>> > One last thing regards a technical point: it may be good if we could
>> define
>> > a Maven profile to automatically start a Hama cluster from Maven but we
>> > should decide if / how to do that; this would allow the user to do a SVN
>> > checkout, run the Maven goal and understanding by seeing Hama working.
>> > Just as an example for the web interface to be started from Maven, we
>> could
>> > use the Maven Jetty plugin [1].
>> > I hope this helps but I look forward to ear other people opinions and
>> > points.
>> > Have a nice day.
>> > Tommaso
>> >
>> > [1] : http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/Maven+Jetty+Plugin
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > ChiaHung Lin
>> > Department of Information Management
>> > National University of Kaohsiung
>> > Taiwan
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
>> @eddieyoon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thomas Jungblut
> Berlin <thomas.jungblut@gmail.com>
>



-- 
Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
@eddieyoon

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