Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-hama-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-hama-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 914994631 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 44276 invoked by uid 500); 29 Jun 2011 08:47:19 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-hama-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44134 invoked by uid 500); 29 Jun 2011 08:47:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact hama-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: hama-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list hama-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44056 invoked by uid 99); 29 Jun 2011 08:47:07 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:47:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-iw0-f175.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username edwardyoon, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:47:06 +0000 Received: by iwn4 with SMTP id 4so938055iwn.6 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 01:47:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.217.79 with SMTP id hl15mr481835ibb.118.1309337225926; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 01:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.13.134 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 01:47:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E0ADB03.7010600@u-mangate.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:47:05 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Pregel clone projects From: "Edward J. Yoon" To: hama-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I think having a Pregel-like API would be good but I'd like more to add s= uch > an API rather than replacing the current BSP-oriented one. +1 On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote: > I think having a Pregel-like API would be good but I'd like more to add s= uch > an API rather than replacing the current BSP-oriented one. > > 2011/6/29 Eric Charles > >> Yes, from Hadoop Summit Page, I read: "Similar to Pregel, Giraph follows >> the bulk-synchronous parallel model relative to graphs where vertices ca= n >> send messages to other vertices during a given superstep." >> >> If you don't explicitly mention Pregel in Hama headline, there are less >> change you will be heard. >> > > I agree, it may be worth to have something about it on the wiki. > Regards, > Tommaso > > >> >> Thx >> >> >> On 29/06/11 08:12, Thomas Jungblut wrote: >> >>> Hey, >>> >>> just have seen JPregel. Don't think they going to get far, since this i= s >>> just a 1:1 java-portation of the pregel paper. >>> Giraphs presentation is today, are there any live feeds of the hadoop >>> summit?:) >>> >>> I'm +1 for pregel-like API because the "thinking like a vertex" is alwa= ys >>> more intuitive than BSP itself. If we can manage to add, let's call it = TLV >>> (Thinking Like a Vertex) AND to keep the BSP engine as itself, Hama wou= ld >>> be >>> very powerful. >>> >>> Greetings >>> >>> >>> 2011/6/29 Edward J. Yoon >>> >>> =C2=A0Hi, >>>> >>>> Recently, I'm see many Pregel clone projects e.g., giraph, goldenorb, >>>> jpregel, .., etc. (although they are all the early stage) >>>> >>>> I still believe that the core is a BSP computing engine but, "Pregel >>>> clone" is a good marketing strategy. >>>> >>>> Should we plan the Pregel-like graph APIs for 0.4-incubating? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> -- >>>> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon >>>> @eddieyoon >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Eric >> > --=20 Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @eddieyoon