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From "LOMBART Christophe" <>
Subject RE: Why not using Magnolia
Date Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:37:27 GMT
Thanks Michi to speak about this kind of issues. 

Comments are welcome.

-----Original Message-----
From:	Michael Wechner []
Sent:	Fri 3/18/2005 11:10 AM
Subject:	Re: Why not using Magnolia
Michael Aemisegger wrote:

> Dear list
> I hope you don't mind bothering you with this question again. I've 
> read the thread about Lenya and haven't found arguments that would 
> counteract Magnolia. Why not using Magnolia?

I don't think so this thread was about why using which CMS, but rather 
why do
various such projects within Apache exist.

> I can't tell for sure whether the licenses of Apache and Magnolia can 
> go together.

AFAIK Magnolia uses LGPL and this might not work out to all ends in the 
combination with the Apache license.

Also AFAIK Obinary (who started Magnolia in the first place and I guess 
still owns the copyright) is creating new software which seems to be 
based on so-called collaborative
source licenses which are not OSI certified and can cause conflicts.

I can understand why "companies" are heading into this direction, but I 
wouldn't rely
on such software and "communities", because of specific lock-ins.

> I don't know whether you are interested in using an existing codebase. 
> I cannot tell for sure if the Magnolia community would welcome the 
> Graffito project. But I am sure, that the two projects could gain from 
> eachother.

all projects could gain from each other, which is what we try at OSCOM ;-)

> Magnolia could be the CMS part for administering content, Jetspeed 
> could be the presentation and business logic part and Graffito would 
> enrich those two with ready to use JSR-168 compliant mini applications.

I don't this is abour technical issues, but about communities and licenses.




Michael Wechner
Wyona Inc.  -   Open Source Content Management   -   Apache Lenya                          

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