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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Podling PPMC members and mentors not signed up to private lists
Date Sat, 11 May 2019 10:06:48 GMT
On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 10:38, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 3:43 AM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 09:00, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 2:33 AM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 02:59, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 2:36 AM Justin Mclean <
> > justin@classsoftware.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >...
> > > > >
> > > > > > No one should be subscribed to the private list other than mentors,
> > > > PPMC
> > > > > > members and ASF members (who can subscribe to any private  list).
> > > > >
> > > > > Strictly speaking, a (P)PMC may have invited guests subscribed to
> > their
> > > > > private@ list. This is quite unusual, but has some precedent. As
you
> > > > note:
> > > > > all subscriptions to private@ should be reviewed/moderated.
> > > >
> > > > Do such invites need to be recorded somehow?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I don't see why they should. A community invites a person to their
> > private@
> > > list.
> >
> > But how does the community decide to invite the person?
> > I would expect such decisions to be recorded on a mailing list.
> >
>
> I've seen the discussion on a private@ list, and then the invite went out.
> So, sure: it's on a list.
>
> Again: not typical ... it's been too long for me to remember which list we
> did this on :)
>
> Might be possible to find subscribers to private@FOO that have no obvious
> connection to the FOO PMC.

As noted above, Whimsy shows unexpected list subscribers to people
with suitable karma.

For example:
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committee/bloodhound#crosscheck

[The section does not appear if there are no such entries or you don't
have karma]

> > That person subscribes, the moderator allows. Done. It isn't really a
> > > significant action.
> >
> > IMO allowing access to a private list is a significant act.
> >
>
> Po-tay-toe, po-tah-toe ... situational. I don't find it too significant,
> but also understand that's just me.
>
> Cheers,
> -g

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