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From Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Podling status Copyright section
Date Thu, 16 May 2019 16:23:05 GMT
A CCLA has two schedules (exhibits? sections?): one for employees, and one
for software grants. The grants section is typically left empty.

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 11:15, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid> wrote:

> Hi Matt,
>
> I'm not sure what "add" means, but there have been several past
> discussions where it appears that new code was brought in under a CCLA
> without an SGA.
>
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d77183d7efd5faf331534edf7ee2de993e908cffa4feb7454f9a6ab1@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-236
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2814bd99f77325f80c6bfbf1156debd22bf556bfd4b9786996c9217c@1423476452@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> http://s.apache.org/YPe
>
> It is also my understanding (from Roy) that in some cases existing code
> can come in under an ICLA.
>
> HTH,
> -Alex
>
> ´╗┐On 5/15/19, 4:27 PM, "Matt Sicker" <boards@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     You can add a software grant to a CCLA concurrently, but not vice
> versa.
>
>     On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 03:28, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     > On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 06:55, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>     > >
>     > > I do not like the words "transfer rights".  It could be
> interpreted as
>     > transfer of copyright.  Copyright of existing code is not
> transferred to
>     > the ASF, AIUI.  How about "Check to make sure that an SGA or CCLA
> has been
>     > received."
>     > >
>     > > I don't like hypotheticals, but I can imagine some individual
> starting a
>     > project on GitHub, has only a few files already under ALv2, and gets
> a
>     > project going at the ASF?  Wouldn't we accept those few files under
> his
>     > ICLA and not require an SGA or CCLA?
>     > >
>     > > I'd suggest dropping the second sentence ("it is necessary to
> transfer
>     > rights...").  AIUI, it is only necessary to grant a perpetual
> license to
>     > the ASF.
>     >
>     > Also, the CCLA is not required, and is not an alternative to the SGA
>     > -- as may perhaps be inferred by some from the phrase "(SGA or CCLA)"
>     >
>     >
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apache.org%2Flicenses%2Fcla-faq.html%23cclas-not-required&amp;data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C7b354edcc5b244d70e7c08d6d98ced18%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636935596691256488&amp;sdata=xS2K8uFmOV367uU65bfbmB6XR5IGsdY8OirvNAiyNO4%3D&amp;reserved=0
>     >
>     > > I like your third sentence.
>     > >
>     > > HTH,
>     > > -Alex
>     > >
>     > > On 5/13/19, 5:28 PM, "Craig Russell" <apache.clr@gmail.com> wrote:
>     > >
>     > >     The Copyright section of the podling status page says "Check
> and
>     > make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF been
> received. It
>     > is only necessary to transfer rights for the package, the core code,
> and
>     > any new code produced by the project.".
>     > >
>     > >     I'd propose a change:
>     > >
>     > >     "Check to make sure that the papers that transfer rights to
> the ASF
>     > been received (SGA or CCLA). It is necessary to transfer rights for
> any
>     > existing package and core code. Any new code produced by the project
> must
>     > be covered by ICLA."
>     > >
>     > >     This change is proposed because it might not be obvious to
> everyone
>     > what "the papers that transfer rights" are. And new code produced
> must be
>     > committed by a person who has filed an ICLA.
>     > >
>     > >     Patches welcome.
>     > >
>     > >     Craig L Russell
>     > >     clr@apache.org
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
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