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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache SkyWalking (incubating) as a TLP(take2)
Date Wed, 06 Mar 2019 01:41:02 GMT
On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 01:19, Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 5:09 PM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 00:18, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi -
> > >
> > > > On Mar 5, 2019, at 3:55 PM, 吴晟 Sheng Wu <wu.sheng@foxmail.com>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Roman
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the discussion, I started about inviting committers to PMC when graduation,
shows the most PPMC members support this. We will wait another 2 days, in case someone may
say others.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In case PPMC agree, I want to ask the process steps of this. From committer
to PMC, I think each one should be invited and accept to be one. Then, when should the invitation
happens?
> > > > Do we need to send invitation and get confirmation before change the graduation
PMC list?
> > > > Or we could change the PMC list first, after our graduation proposal is
accepted, we send the invitation.
> > >
> > > Just put them all on the graduation proposal (the IPMC and board’s approval
is equal to NOTICE) and (unless Infra does it) add them to the PMC in Whimsy once you have
graduated and infrastructure has moved the project LDAP.
> >
> > Huh?
> > That does not sound right.
> >
> > The graduation proposal lists the initial PMC membership (committers
> > are irrelevant here).
> > Adding committers to the proposal (if that is what you meant) is the
> > same as adding them to the (initial) PMC.
> >
> > That can only be done if the committers have agreed to becoming
> > members,
>
> That is correct, they need to be offered and they need to agree.
>
> > in which case you might as well add them to the PPMC before
> > graduation.
>
> Since PPMC is an artificial construct that isn't recognized by the
> foundation -- this part is moot. IOW, after these individuals agree
> they may as well be put on the resolution straight away.

Yes, and LDAP will need to be adjusted in Whimsy after graduation.

I think there are two choices:
1) follow the normal route to add committers to the PPMC and copy the
final list to the proposal.
 This means sending a NOTICE to the IPMC, etc.

2) Conditionally invite the committers (proposal could fail), and add
them to the proposal.
Don't add them to the PPMC (because there has been no IPMC NOTICE)
If the proposal succeeds, then Whimsy can be used to update LDAP membership.

> Thanks,
> Roman.

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