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From Antoine Toulme <anto...@toulme.name>
Subject Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name
Date Thu, 28 Feb 2019 19:04:01 GMT
Thanks Kevin, your help and guidance are appreciated.

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgrail@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> A rose by any other name would still be as sweet so I am +1 on the
> proposal.  Just trying to help with the naming issue and to save the
> project and infra grief of it needs to change.
> 
> But I am here to support and feel bad to throw any gunk in your sprockets.
> 
> Best, KAM
> 
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 13:59 Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name wrote:
> 
>> For context Jim is the champion of the Cava proposal.
>> 
>> The point of rough consensus is to bring about strong objections and move
>> past non-votes.
>> I believe we are at that point, and I will move forward to consider this
>> thread closed with the name Rainbow.
>> I will open a pooling namecheck and move to the next step there.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, I have no doubt that the proposal is going to pass, so we might as
>> well progress on w/ that assumption. ;)
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgrail@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to
>> lead
>>>> me to believe we are at that stage yet.  I think we want to have
>>>> discussions about a provisional name first.  Specifically, "A podling
>>>> needs to discover whether a name is suitable."
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> KAM
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>>> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgrail@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not an objection per se but two comments:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
>>>>>> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses.  For example,
>>>>>> 
>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so
I
>> would
>>>>>> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up
>> words.
>>>>>> Less chance of conflictions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> KAM
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey folks, just checking in.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still
>> following, we have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push
>> proposals to hear objections.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <antoine@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t
find OSS
>> projects with those names.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit
the
>> whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgrail@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines,
which is
>> clearly a
>>>>>>>>>> really different field of use.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was
hasty in
>> presuming it
>>>>>>>>>> described a historical language. If it is an active
open source
>> project,
>>>>>>>>>> let's not collide.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a
quick search,
>> but sounds
>>>>>>>>>> like someone should check my work...
>>>>>>>>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming
>> language I
>>>>>>>>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years
old on PAL
>>>>>>>>> (
>> https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things
like
>> Raspberry
>>>>>>>>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as
a trademark,
>> etc.
>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS
spaces
>> except a
>>>>>>>>> company called winch gate.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> KAM
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>>>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
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>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
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