From general-return-66353-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@incubator.apache.org Tue Nov 6 09:49:00 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id BECC7180658 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 09:48:59 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 97438 invoked by uid 500); 6 Nov 2018 08:48:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 97415 invoked by uid 99); 6 Nov 2018 08:48:57 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 08:48:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 3EC58C06AA for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 08:48:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TWi4So2pzQF5 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 08:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lj1-f181.google.com (mail-lj1-f181.google.com [209.85.208.181]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 2CAC55F47D for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 08:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lj1-f181.google.com with SMTP id q186-v6so10670731ljb.5 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 00:48:56 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=U815j/NDne66rQ6/hfKP4mECVbV+oVVZle9Plhxaty0=; b=joqze0TV7Q0vTEkFWenpzxTuviY6UUssFasNbdnX45F4ZFOvHtyih5wZ+GuhfG+oY5 TDLo+mt+OblC6EnRRm5bYRUxkgLO8nPs4B4YUNEMv3ejRb6ZEQidd4wZ5+Y3rQi5huRn AoIlNiYB9VjZctFc+goW6yi/aBb1GmhNgjuqunkwU/KN5ZDjw3gdkcIhMo6M3jz1TSX+ R8k4CuidcV48cP6nyTpYjY4hMxPrrNhKl+dlcfUI+T81BBGFvVWiMjfSKhxmfWC5vX+h XHqcJTvzKngqqap8G5O6jjq1oSMNPZjtQw22rNhzeAOFNkzLb4VPAGacIhpG2cdhJkJt SqUA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLsM0VBzL6Q0X8FAB2HSbDAeF+laXHJvfibzrG5IaIsXUiVPURh JLsG8fDPddyOCRRkgcot5xV7MEbhUprAUTNag87e2wuyr8s= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dLdBYugCIkMiOdXHv9LafJT+9HPbod6ILPTjVEWUMM0YO0umCfAAR5RUv0NA7CTuAnjY8b/TtrCmioAmqM/OI= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:5555:: with SMTP id j82-v6mr18316293ljb.69.1541494134523; Tue, 06 Nov 2018 00:48:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2D1B4BD3-1CB9-4436-8255-D957CCBEF165@classsoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <2D1B4BD3-1CB9-4436-8255-D957CCBEF165@classsoftware.com> From: Bertrand Delacretaz Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 09:48:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Voting in new IPMC members To: Incubator General Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:39 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...From my reading of policy and many many discussions on mailing lists, it seem > that consensus approval not majority approval is the standard way... To me the ultimate reference is https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html - decisions are made by consensus (*) which can be expressed by a majority vote with a least three +1s, and vetoes are only valid for code changes. Do you see that differently? -Bertrand (*) consensus being defined as "widespread agreement among people with decision power", as opposed to unanimity - because the latter might block progress --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org