From general-return-65607-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@incubator.apache.org Tue Sep 4 13:42:53 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 94CA8180629 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:42:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 20464 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2018 11:42:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 20447 invoked by uid 99); 4 Sep 2018 11:42:51 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) (207.244.88.137) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 11:42:51 +0000 Received: from mail-pl1-f169.google.com (mail-pl1-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id 629D92078 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pl1-f169.google.com with SMTP id x6-v6so1504651plv.10 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 04:42:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CUZUzt2yR0ASBtz0lZjbjZv+I/RlnBq21ULVSPl4PcI19RgsJp tIzkFhs2UPwZ3uZBZYNyZL5Q5Du5K+7+41B5S/8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYc4CuxN/FnqxZzFGcmG91CZAablK6A4YNWK89KfEM/2lXCZFdLdL+HTlIgA/8smlAUVj8h1XwXqnyV/FO5//8= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:33c2:: with SMTP id b60-v6mr32851348plc.11.1536061369736; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 04:42:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a17:90a:bc4a:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 04:42:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <16B38069-5FA4-43DD-8EDA-9DB4F77C7A5C@comcast.net> <67270fe9-c500-0e4a-169e-9019abc801a6@apache.org> <646B6B74-3395-481A-887B-52F7883FFBE6@gmail.com> From: Pierre Smits Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:42:49 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Poddlings length of time in the incubator To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004be2b405750a2896" --0000000000004be2b405750a2896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I agree with Bertrand on that a - projected - viability of having a fruitful lifespan under the umbrella of the ASF is key. And that IMO is much driven by popularity of the code as it must fill a certain level of need to adopt, and the desire of those participating in the - incubating - project to keep the works attractive AND grow the community. If either declines that viability to survive as an ASF project decreases drastically. Re: at least 5 active PPMC Members As we learned from the Trafodion graduation, it was (is?) also required that (some of) the ASF Members mentoring the project were going to be part of the PMC after graduation. Best regards, Pierre Smits Apache Trafodion , Vice President Apache Directory , PMC Member Apache Incubator , committer *Apache OFBiz , contributor (without privileges) since 2008* Apache Steve , committer On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:57 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:23 PM Gunnar Tapper > wrote: > > ...Stated in a different way: if there's little interest in a project's > > technology but it does everything it can to attract contributors, then is > > popularity a measure of whether a project is ready for graduation?... > > I think it's fine for small projects to graduate, as long as they > appear to be viable. > > IMO having at least 5 active PMC members on graduating projects is a > reasonable way to ensure their viability. > > I don't think popularity should ever be a factor - viability is. > > -Bertrand > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --0000000000004be2b405750a2896--