From general-return-65554-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@incubator.apache.org Mon Sep 3 06:53:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id E7488180647 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 06:53:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 79681 invoked by uid 500); 3 Sep 2018 04:53:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 79661 invoked by uid 99); 3 Sep 2018 04:53:53 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 04:53:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 37DBEC0558 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 04:53:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.131 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.131 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lb4fheGtuA-D for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 04:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt0-f169.google.com (mail-qt0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 796C35F1B3 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 04:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-f169.google.com with SMTP id g44-v6so20535791qtb.12 for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2018 21:53:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=VnLrSiXh2Q4iaiWQYfBfdoAUHosSndTf/b1WGvfHGBk=; b=mfnzqEYhps36dYQdubZ/6VmIIDtMDgfkXVLSMlppgm5u5XWBvdHGLqD0ieN1kI3t1s psbGqfzg/0YwLzkvNvv2gA/F3ZbPXGTcxDE6JVtcrkWCXEbayMV5LtX42FRx+4wdESbE rqEg4VkxJ3aFAID3TLYuw8Lyqoh8db3L7qd9ZDiC+zpHBdkG/A651fctMMaJHNe2H1Oz 3HE3U40VDYp1RpETFDwqqQF3XvmHGejna9eX2fyd+DfxK2L0LrUWIo+obgfPyXdD186f d5TrMyqOuF9v+rXeSoPdJ0aOUz9q0Eu4tmhfnLBEyq+FzJ3Df9xYigQsnUZpRKHlLYvg 6tkw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=VnLrSiXh2Q4iaiWQYfBfdoAUHosSndTf/b1WGvfHGBk=; b=K7Cwy//GNFMNfindPSKUubE9wwy37Fl68cMW2VAhSS8BloULFYsWPobA/YAzjnenG2 dWJEiWz3AR9l2psColi2gE/an9emalBSmSaU9x1xXlI9o1HgE43HPKjKw/++iZPlf2e1 QoW5W2HHQreO3XMPi7Zh6D8+fKiRiaRekXnL+jKa2P8Bvsq9zXLUuJhOGOQd7urS/NFa VKd0Heq+V87WZbBnohlvTTv4cP4vjQ3Fh+7ku/LyJqUxXFV3+/VICTFruAO8tDKpDhEo +y3cZmocKFtgHgcB5rbK8eUxJtmnKAH693if/xYQ/yRO7w2pUuKskDOveXQUwkDG2kPy eTog== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DxLRm9YXhxuO4qBY1pfI4KeZCBVimzl6jlc/i+uuvUbo9vsrEX Md3wLHl4oYtPp63o9YroE80= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYXsgqe3ajYMNEj3Xt7PT8cd9fiQv6GwTqUPtxh8mtRLKZKC7ztaYeXh04inbbTtEMHGabHfA== X-Received: by 2002:aed:3688:: with SMTP id f8-v6mr23816417qtb.276.1535950432210; Sun, 02 Sep 2018 21:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-108-2-222-117.phlapa.fios.verizon.net. [108.2.222.117]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o124-v6sm9968977qkd.61.2018.09.02.21.53.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Sep 2018 21:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Graduation Resolutions Should Not Include Project Bylaws Clause From: "P. Taylor Goetz" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (15C153) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 00:53:50 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <58E329B5-0136-4117-A482-BEACE3E06301@gmail.com> To: general@incubator.apache.org > On Sep 3, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > > Personally, I'd prefer that the concept of project bylaws disappear. Move > to "community guides". A *guide* rather than a *ruleset*. The Board has > kinda gone quiet on the discussion, but hopefully it will pick it back up, > to provide some guidance here. ++1 All projects need is sane (in ASF terms) developer guidelines. -Taylor --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org