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[121.44.253.123]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p3-v6sm14416892pfo.130.2018.08.31.17.45.08 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 31 Aug 2018 17:45:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Justin Mclean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Absent mentors Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 10:45:03 +1000 References: <587E1E85-D988-41ED-AC83-1A3E522B38DE@apache.org> <66db5852-be83-f989-3926-036fc9c051ac@shanecurcuru.org> <2C60866B-E3C0-468F-8CA2-CFCF9113F7FA@comcast.net> <4a9b8875-778e-35ad-5da7-52210b15d915@apache.org> To: general@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Hi, Coming back to this old thread and coming up with some simple draft = emails. Feedback welcome. > Taking a closer look at the data [1] (only accessible by IPMC and ASF = members sorry) it may be a good idea to split the mentors/podlings into = groups and draft a different email for each? For instance: > - Mentors who are not signing off reports at all or only occasionally (sent to mentor) I can see you are are the mentor of XXX and haven=E2=80=99t been signing = off reports on a frequent basis. Life happens and things change and you = may no longer be in the position to be able to put in the same effort = that you once did to mentor this podling. If that is the case perhaps = you would consider stepping down as mentor and/or help find the podling = another mentor. By my rough count there about 90 mentors :-( who are in this position. > - Mentors who have missed a few as they it looks like they have too = many podlings on their plate (sent to mentor) I can see you are are the mentor of XXX, YYY and ZZZ and haven=E2=80=99t = been signing off all reports on a frequent basis. While we appreciate = your enthusiasm for helping out at the incubator PMC, perhaps you=E2=80=99= ve got busy with other things or you've just taken on too many podlings = to mentor. Would it be better for you and your podlings if you cut back = a little on the number you mentor and let someone else handle the load? By my rough count there about 15 mentors who are in this position. > - Podlings that have a less that 50% (say) sign off rate (sent to dev or private list) It looks like your mentors haven=E2=80=99t been signing off board = reports as much as they should. Can you tell us if your mentors are = still active or if you need help in any other way? By my rough count there about 30 podlings who are in this position. That = more than half the current podlings. Those numbers are a lot larger that I expected, but I think we've known = that. So they emails might get some mentors re-engaged and they may get = some mentors to resign. The question may be where do we find mentors to = help podlings out if a large number do decide to step down. Thanks, Justin 1. https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/signoff.cgi#bypodling --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org