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From Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Graduation Resolutions Should Not Include Project Bylaws Clause
Date Sun, 02 Sep 2018 22:27:27 GMT
John,

The clause as written right now doesn't speak to the ASF level bylaws.
It gives the PMC the specific tasking to create bylaws.  If not
removed the language should probably change to not encourage creation
of new bylaws but rather understand the implicit adoption of the ASF
level bylaws.

Thanks
On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 5:25 PM John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> wrote:
>
> -private list for now.
>
>
> I disagree with removing the bylaws clause.  It's assumed your going to use
> the ASF level bylaws if you don't have another one.
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018, 14:29 Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Note the cross-posting between public and private mailing lists.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Sep 2, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Good point, Dave.  +board as this was an issue with emeritus pmc and
> > > project bylaws
> > >
> > >> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018, 12:37 Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi -
> > >>
> > >> Pulsar is currently discussing a graduation proposal and Taylor noticed
> > >> the following that came out of the whimsy boilerplate.
> > >>
> > >> Quick question:
> > >>
> > >> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Pulsar PMC be and hereby is tasked
> > >> with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
> > >> development and increased participation in the Apache Pulsar Project;
> > >> and be it further
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Does the Pulsar PPMC feel the need to adopt bylaws (it’s not required),
> > or
> > >> are the Apache defaults acceptable?
> > >>
> > >> One option is to simply not have bylaws, which means you would simply
> > >> adhere to [1] and [2], and put any clarifications in a contributors’
> > guide
> > >> (which you’ve done).
> > >>
> > >> -Taylor
> > >>
> > >> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
> > >> [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I think that this clause needs to be removed from the template.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
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