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From Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Graduation Resolutions Should Not Include Project Bylaws Clause
Date Mon, 03 Sep 2018 04:10:29 GMT
hehe.. and I agree with both of you :-)

But when the concept of "foundation-level project bylaws" came up, that is
where they are. Not labeled as such, not explained well, etc. Agreed. Yet
conceptually, those are the "default project bylaws" should a PMC not
decide to write up something else.

We'll get there.

Personally, I'd prefer that the concept of project bylaws disappear. Move
to "community guides". A *guide* rather than a *ruleset*. The Board has
kinda gone quiet on the discussion, but hopefully it will pick it back up,
to provide some guidance here.

Cheers,
-g


On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 8:03 PM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com> wrote:

> Greg,
>
> I agree with Justin.
>
> I know from experience what the “defaults” are, but to a newcomer, it’s
> likely anything but clear. The project-specific ones you reference make no
> reference to being bylaws, hence my description of them as “policy.”
>
> If we could clearly delineate between Foundation Bylaws and Project
> Bylaws, with both preferably outlined on a single page, I think that would
> help resolve some of the confusion.
>
> -Taylor
>
> > On Sep 2, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Justin Mclean <justinmclean@me.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >> There are two types of "bylaws" at the Foundation level. The official
> ones
> >> you're referring to, and the project ones under dev/ (the "how it works"
> >> stuff).
> >
> > And the issue with the later is not 100% clear what they are, and while
> they are mostly documented in various places and reasonably well understood
> there’s some cracks and some things are open to interpretation. While
> having “the default" certainly works in just about all cases, it can fall
> down in situations where it’s probably most needed.
> >
> > It could possibly be a good idea, if the board took a look as some
> existing TLP projects bylaws, picked a set they agree with and we could
> made that the default set for new projects to use.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
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