From general-return-64080-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@incubator.apache.org Thu Apr 12 19:22:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 05CAF180634 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 19:22:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 75004 invoked by uid 500); 12 Apr 2018 17:22:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 74988 invoked by uid 99); 12 Apr 2018 17:22:23 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:22:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 452AFC688F for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:22:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9C0ZTqUQ0_P9 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cp06.hosting.zen.net.uk (cp06.hosting.zen.net.uk [82.71.204.9]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 987EC5F254 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [131.107.160.78] (port=60493 helo=ROGARDLEBOOK) by cp06.hosting.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1f6fvQ-003aKk-0Q for general@incubator.apache.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:22:21 +0000 From: To: References: <1523278367759-0.post@n3.nabble.com> <214B64E9-DE09-4E4E-B5F3-5A6C6D0A3153@apache.org> <11684D49-52E6-4F7A-AF2C-BA4AC6F9132D@jaguNET.com> <01ec01d3d0e9$fe3a7e40$faaf7ac0$@gardler.org> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: The role of a mentor Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:22:18 -0700 Message-ID: <04ca01d3d282$d00e0ec0$702a2c40$@gardler.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQJUEN6WdUuhwNeVUKpJeG2n+Oys5gGn62xKAhmKOyUCOzCyQAE6hIMwAOLhMaEDNrc6AAGDdJQHAJfZ2dWikYLDYA== msip_labels: MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_Enabled=True; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_SiteId=72f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_Owner=rogardle@microsoft.com; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_SetDate=2018-04-12T17:22:13.1959360Z; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_Name=General; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_Application=Microsoft Azure Information Protection; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_Extended_MSFT_Method=Automatic; Sensitivity=General X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cp06.hosting.zen.net.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gardler.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cp06.hosting.zen.net.uk: authenticated_id: ross@gardler.org X-Authenticated-Sender: cp06.hosting.zen.net.uk: ross@gardler.org I agree with the observations and clarifications to my post. I should perhaps have prefaced my opinion with "If I agree to mentor I = assume I will [read everything] for the first x months and then monitor = for problems after that" This is why I've not mentored a project for some time. It *is* very time = consuming if we are to do it right, especially at the start. Ross -----Original Message----- From: Ted Dunning =20 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:56 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The role of a mentor I try to be more aware early on and then ease up later after things = start moving smoothly. I still watch a lot, however. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 9:47 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz < = bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 6:07 AM, Hen wrote: > > ...If you > > think of someone you view as a mentor, they didn't spend all their=20 > > time looking over your shoulder. Instead you met with them from time = > > to time > and > > discussed a topic that you were looking to find clarity on... > > That's how I see my role as a mentor - I try to become aware of where=20 > help is needed, but generally don't follow everything. > > For this I like the [mentors] subject line tag that some podlings use=20 > to raise the mentors attention on their dev list. > > -Bertrand > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org