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From Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache Gobblin 0.12.0 release RC2
Date Sun, 01 Apr 2018 08:10:37 GMT
Hi Olivier

NOTICE file is not supposed to include the copyright unless the License
requires.
As the MIT License already has the copyright statement, we don't need to
specify it in the NOTCE file.

I just copy the Justin's comments from the lega issue discussion[1] , it
can explain lots of thing.

"While including all of NOTICE is the safest/simplest way.

INAL but I also think removal of obvious things that have been documented
that shouldn't be there is also safe. i.e.

   - Don't include ASF duplicate ASF copyright/this product developed at
   the ASF lines [1]
   - Remove anything that should be in LICENSE (that is already there) i.e.
   MIT and BSD license information [2]
   - Remove any copyright lines from MIT and BSD (but not ASL 2.0)
   permissive licenses, who headers are still in place in their respective
   files [3]
   - Only include parts if they are bundled in your release [4]

Perhaps also politely ask / provide a patch to the upstream project to fix
their NOTICE file?

1. http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#bundle-asf-product
2. http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#permissive-deps
3. http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#mod-notice
4. http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#guiding-principle"

[1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-262


Willem Jiang

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On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Olivier Lamy <olamy@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi
> the content is simply.
> "
>
> Apache Gobblin
>
> Copyright 2017-2018 The Apache Software Foundation
>
>
> This product includes software developed at
>
> The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
>
>
> This product includes Bootstrap
>
> Copyright (c) 2011-2015 Twitter, Inc.
>
>
> This product includes the Glyphicons Halflings icon set
>
> Copyright (c) Jan Kovařík (http://glyphicons.com)
>
> Licensed under The MIT License (MIT) as a part of the Bootstrap project.
>
>
> This product includes normalize.css
>
> Copyright (c) Nicolas Gallagher and Jonathan Neal
> "
> Can you please explain what is the legal problem with such content?
> TBH I can see so many similar content in a lot of TLP projects. So why we
> should be more rude here than for other projects?
>
>
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2018 at 09:08, Justin Mclean <justinmclean@me.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > -1 binding as NOTICE should not contain copyrights of bundled 3rd party
> > software. The NOTICE file needs to only contain what is required  (and
> not
> > already in LICENSE) and needs to be as small as possible as it affects
> > downstream projects. [2]
> >
> > I checked:
> > - incubating in name
> > - signatures and hashes good
> > - DISCLAIMER exists
> > - LICENSE is missing info for fonts [1]
> > - NOTICE is incorrect
> > - Some .sh files are missing ASF headers
> > - Can compile from source
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
> > 1.
> > apache-gobblin-incubating-sources-0.12.0/gobblin-admin/
> src/main/resources/static/fonts/*
> > 2. http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#mod-notice
> >
> >
> >
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>
> --
> Olivier Lamy
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