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Please email me if you are interested. Thanks. - Carl On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Carl Steinbach wrote: > I will followup with LinkedIn's legal team regarding getting an SGA. I > don't > think this will be a problem since the same team has already reviewed Dr. > Elephant > and approved it for contribution to the Apache incubator. > > - Carl > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Kevin A. McGrail > wrote: > >> Sorry, I missed the copyright and checked only the LICENSE. Agree >> completely with you and Craig an SGA is needed. >> >> -- >> Kevin A. McGrail >> Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation >> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:19 PM, John D. Ament >> wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:17 PM Kevin A. McGrail >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Fair enough but it would be procedural not legal. Who would sign said >> > > SGA? LI or representatives of the GH project? >> > > >> > >> > LinkedIn. And it is a legal need. Right now, the source files have >> > Copyright LinkedIn on them. The SGA grants us the ability to remove >> that >> > copyright header. The CCLA would allow the individual contributors to >> > submit the code to us with the appropriate header. Hence why either >> works >> > in this case. >> > >> > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Kevin A. McGrail >> > > Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation >> > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >> > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >> <(703)%20798-0171> >> > > >> > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Craig Russell >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > If Dr. Elephant *becomes* an Apache project, it needs a SGA. This is >> > part >> > > > of the incubation process, although as Bertrand notes, it's good to >> > know >> > > > ahead of time whether all of the current owners of the code are >> willing >> > > to >> > > > grant an explicit license to Apache. >> > > > >> > > > Please see http://www.apache.org/licenses/#provenance for details. >> > > > >> > > > If Dr. Elephant is only *used* as a dependency by an Apache >> project, no >> > > > SGA is needed. >> > > > >> > > > Craig >> > > > >> > > > > On Mar 7, 2018, at 5:51 AM, Kevin A. McGrail > > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > I do not believe an SGA is needed as Dr. Elephant is licensed >> under >> > > ASF. >> > > > > https://github.com/linkedin/dr-elephant/blob/master/LICENSE >> > > > > >> > > > > Regards, >> > > > > KAM >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Kevin A. McGrail >> > > > > Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation >> > > > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >> > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >> > <(703)%20798-0171> >> > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 6:59 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < >> > > > > bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > >> Hi, >> > > > >> >> > > > >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Carl Steinbach >> > > wrote: >> > > > >>> = Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan = >> > > > >>> ...The Dr. Elephant source code is already licensed under >> > > > >>> Apache License Version 2.0. Going forward, we will continue to >> have >> > > > >>> all the contributions licensed directly to the Apache Software >> > > > >>> Foundation through our signed Individual Contributor License >> > > > >>> Agreements for all of the committers on the project.... >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Note that whoever owns the code (LinkedIn IIUC) will have to >> submit >> > a >> > > > >> Software Grant to donate it to the ASF: >> > > > >> >> > > > >> https://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt >> > > > >> >> > > > >> I think it's prudent to verify that the owners of the code are >> ready >> > > > >> to sign and submit that document, and mention that in the above >> > > > >> section, before entering incubation. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> -Bertrand >> > > > >> >> > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> > --------- >> > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache. >> org >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > Craig L Russell >> > > > Secretary, Apache Software Foundation >> > > > clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ >> --------- >> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > --94eb2c1a09948e31020566d8aa3d--