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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Resolution to graduate Apache FreeMarker to TLP
Date Wed, 07 Feb 2018 23:07:56 GMT
Hi -

Apologies - I read the status page in lieu of the Proposal. Given that and the composition
of the proposed PMC I am +1 with no reservation.

Regards,
Dave

> On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:42 PM, Daniel Dekany <ddekany@freemail.hu> wrote:
> 
> Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 11:15:45 PM, Woonsan Ko wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> How has the Freemarker podling grown it’s community? I see no one on the proposed
PMC who was not either an Initial Committer or a Mentor.
>>> 
>>> I don’t see anyone new on the roster in whimsy.[1]
>> Comparing with the initial proposal [2] (linked from [1]), I see new
>> names (including myself) in PPMC: Jacques Le Roux, Woonsan Ko
>> Nan Lei became a committer afterward as well.
> 
> Also, as of the Mentors, 3 of them, who weren't part of the project
> before entering the Incubator, has decided to stay as PMC members. I
> understand if that growth counts differently, but as far as ensuring
> that there are people who can make releases and such (which is what
> our user base mostly cares about), it's a growth.
> 
> Other than that, we got some increase in non-committer activity, even
> if that just means bug reports, feature request, and some patches, and
> not people who commit themselves to a more involved role.
> 
> BTW, it should be clear that FreeMarker is a very old, long
> established project. Things to do that are under a certain pain
> threshold were certainly already done by now. Also, an old code base
> with many backward compatibility constraints is rarely attractive for
> unpaid contributors, and there are no paid ones here. (The 3.0 branch
> happens to solve this legacy code problem, but it's in early stage.)
> So it was quite clear from the beginning that no big growth will
> happen here. The more realistic goal was having more people who can,
> both legally and technically, accept PR-s and do releases. (And also
> having a legal owner that can't be gone over night, of course.) And
> that was achieved.
> 
> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Woonsan
>> 
>> [2] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FreemarkerProposal
>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/freemarker
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 6, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Daniel Dekany <ddekany@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The FreeMarker community has discussed and voted positively on
>>>> graduating to a TLP. We'd like to initiate this discussion to
>>>> establish a consensus within the Incubator, and if appropriate, will
>>>> initiate a recommendation vote.
>>>> 
>>>> Status page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/freemarker.html
>>>> 
>>>> Community Discussion:
>>>> - Project maturity model: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FREEMARKER/Apache+FreeMarker+Project+Maturity+Model
>>>> - Graduation discussion: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b8777f26a57eb7e2f2189a9b299f453ea2c664227ef36d280962b5a4@<dev.freemarker.apache.org>
>>>> - Resolution discussion: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9a6e53784b930c2a90dbfb2bc725f3dee6a8611f9606f09185e65fe6@<dev.freemarker.apache.org>
>>>> 
>>>> Community Vote:
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e85c72b2a7644005ff44d144e08807362e0461a5f854a1f691a960db@<dev.freemarker.apache.org>
>>>> 
>>>> The proposed Resolution of the Apache FreeMarker project:
>>>> 
>>>> ------
>>>> 
>>>> Establish the Apache FreeMarker Project
>>>> 
>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>>>> the public, related to a template engine.
>>>> 
>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache FreeMarker Project",
>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>> 
>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby is
>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>> related to a template engine, and be it further
>>>> 
>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache FreeMarker" be
>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>>> of the Apache FreeMarker Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>> responsibility of the Apache FreeMarker Project; and be it further
>>>> 
>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>> Apache FreeMarker Project:
>>>> 
>>>> * Dániel Dékány                   <ddekany@apache.org>
>>>> * David E. Jones                  <jonesde@apache.org>
>>>> * Jacopo Cappellato               <jacopoc@apache.org>
>>>> * Jacques Le Roux                 <jleroux@apache.org>
>>>> * Nan Lei                         <nanlei@apache.org>
>>>> * Sergio Fernández                <wikier@apache.org>
>>>> * Woonsan Ko                      <woonsan@apache.org>
>>>> 
>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Dániel Dékány
>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache FreeMarker,
>>>> to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>> 
>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache FreeMarker Project be and hereby
>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>> Incubator FreeMarker podling; and be it further
>>>> 
>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>> Incubator FreeMarker podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>>> Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>> 
>>>> ------
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Daniel Dekany
>>>> 
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> 
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> Daniel Dekany
> 
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