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From Thomas Nadeau <tnad...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache AriaTosca Release 0.2.0
Date Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:32:45 GMT
I agree on explicit clarity, especially in the cases of incubation projects
where people might be new to this whole process.
I personally scoured the available documentation yesterday after this came
up and just didn't have the time to chime in,
but I didn't find any specific guidance.

I agree with Tal here %100. Apache needs to have clear instructions on how
to handle this situation.  After this
discussion is clarified, can we ensure someone takes the action to update
the apache docs?  I am happy to help
with this if I can.

--Tom



On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 7:52 PM, Tal Liron <tal@cloudify.co> wrote:

> The line mentioned is not in NOTICE. The line is specifically a comment in
> a file used to download/install a 3rd party product on the cloud. I truly
> think we are in the clear here.
>
> Re: Python packaging. Apache Airflow is also in incubation and also, like
> AriaTosca, does not have the "-incubating" in its Python package name.
>
> I think it's time we had some clarity here regarding policy and apply it to
> all projects. AriaTosca would of course comply with whatever is decided.
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:44 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 10 January 2018 at 17:10, Tal Liron <tal@cloudify.co> wrote:
> > > John, the line is relevant. The service template in question is used to
> > > install and deploy Clearwater IMS.
> >
> > The NOTICE and LICENSE files are ONLY for files that are actually
> > included in the release archive.
> >
> > > I believe users should know what they are installing.
> >
> > Yes, but not in NOTICE.
> > There should be a prompt to ask the user whether it's OK to install the
> > code.
> > The license can be mentioned at that point.
> >
> > A separate issue is whether the dependency on the GPL code is OK.
> > Will the product run without the download?
> > The general rule is that Cat X dependencies (includes GPL) must be
> > optional.
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
> >
> > > I don't know if we can include a suffix easily, and wonder why need to
> > > change it now -- it will make it harder for users to upgrade if there
> are
> > > two different package names.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:57 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:35 AM Tal Liron <tal@cloudify.co> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Justin,
> > >> >
> > >> > Project Clearwater is GNU GPLv3, however it is not included in this
> > >> > distribution. These two files are Apache licensed. The line you
> quote
> > is
> > >> > merely informational.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> That line should be removed, as it is not relevant to the release
> > contents
> > >> then.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > That tarball and wheel file you are looking at are not Apache
> > >> > distributions, but rather Python packages. Are you sure they need
to
> > have
> > >> > "-incubating" in the name?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> As far as I can tell, this is a limitation of the pypi packages, and
> the
> > >> source release includes the proper naming.  I see that in the 0.1.1
> > >> release, this issue didn't come up.  Do you know if we can include a
> > suffix
> > >> this like, or would pypi treat this as a part of the version #?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:15 AM, Justin Mclean <justinmclean@me.com
> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -1 binding as releases don't have incubating in the name.
> > >> > > apache-ariatosca-0.2.0.tar.gz
> > >> > > apache_ariatosca-0.2.0-py2-none-any.whl
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Also can you confirm the license of these two files  [1][2] as
> they
> > >> > > contain:
> > >> > > "Project Clearwater is an open-source IMS core, developed by
> > Metaswitch
> > >> > > Networks and released under the GNU GPLv3."
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I checked:
> > >> > > - incubating missing in release name
> > >> > > - signatures and hashes correct
> > >> > > - DISCLAIMER exists
> > >> > > - LICENSE and NOTICE correct
> > >> > > - no unexpected binaries in source release
> > >> > > - all source files have ASF headers
> > >> > > - couldn’t compile from source but probably my environment
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks,
> > >> > > Justin
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 1. apache-ariatosca-0.2.0-incubating.tar/apache-
> > >> > > ariatosca-0.2.0-incubating/examples/clearwater/
> > >> > > clearwater-live-test-existing.yaml
> > >> > > 2. apache-ariatosca-0.2.0-incubating.tar/apache-
> > >> > >
> > >> > ariatosca-0.2.0-incubating/examples/clearwater/
> > >> clearwater-single-existing.
> > >> > > yaml
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