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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension
Date Thu, 14 Dec 2017 11:48:07 GMT
Karl,

CCLA [1] is just a document indicating that the corporate entity has given
approval for individuals associated to it to contribute to Apache under
ICLAs.  It really doesn't provide any legal bearing to relicense code
outside of an ICLA/SGA.

Usually when projects come to us with an IP clearance, its for a
significant amount of code.  In those scenarios, there's an SGA associated
with the contribution (from a corporate entity) indicating that they are
licensing the ASF to use the code under the Apache license (irrespective of
the original license).  I'm assuming that at Intel some # of engineers
contributed to this code, and that it was under a proprietary license until
this JIRA ticket was filed.  In that case, SGA is almost always the right
document to get signed.

In the situations where we see ICLAs, there isn't usually a SGA involved
since its covered under an ICLA for that committer and needs to be applied
as a patch/pull request.  The other clear thing this indicates is a loss of
provenance, since (I haven't looked at all of the source files) we're
receiving a flat dump of code to be brought into an existing repository.

So, unfortunately, until that's resolved I'm -1 to accepting it.

[1]: https://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 5:03 AM Karl Pauls <karlpauls@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> as far as I understand the situation, the contribution has been
> submitted by Jessica Marz on behalf of Intel. The copyright is
> entirely Intel and the CCLA received is _from_ Intel, covering Jessica
> Marz and the contribution. Does that help?
>
> regards,
>
> Karl
>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:54 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Can you please clarify whether only a CCLA was received, or if ICLAs/SGA
> > were received as well?  The document indicates a CCLA was received from
> an
> > individual, which doesn't sound right.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM Karl Pauls <karlpauls@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> the Apache Felix project has received the contribution of the Bundle
> >> Archive File Installer Extension.
> >>
> >> - The code is attached to FELIX-5732 [0].
> >> - The IP Clearance form has been committed [1].
> >> - The acceptance vote has passed on the dev@felix malining list [2].
> >>
> >> The clearance passes by lazy consensus if no -1 votes are cast within
> >> the next 72 hours.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >>
> >> Karl
> >>
> >>
> >> [0] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5732
> >> [1]
> >>
> https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/felix-bar-file-install-extension.html
> >> [2] https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@felix.apache.org/msg44409.html
> >>
> >> --
> >> Karl Pauls
> >> karlpauls@gmail.com
> >>
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>
>
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