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From Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension
Date Thu, 14 Dec 2017 12:08:08 GMT
John,

it might typically be an SGA but it does say: "This grant can either
be done by the ASF Corporate CLA (via Schedule B) or the Software
Grant Agreement". Should we change that wording then?

Anyways, I will follow-up with Intel via Jessica and let them know
that the provided Corporate CLA isn't sufficient and see if they can
provide a Software Grant Agreement instead. Thanks!

regards,

Karl

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:01 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> wrote:
> Karl,
>
> If the code is already Apache licensed, then I would check w/ secretary@ or
> legal-discuss@ to confirm what documents need to be in place to remove the
> Intel copyright claim (typically those would go in to the NOTICE file for
> Apache Felix going forward).  This is typically done as an SGA [1].
>
> John
>
> [1]: https://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant-template.pdf
>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:57 AM Karl Pauls <karlpauls@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> the code has been available as AL with the Intel copyright already
>> (the license headers in the files are unchanged). It is mainly an
>> attempt to get it contributed to Apache Felix. I told them we need the
>> following (from the incubator ip-clearance form):
>>
>> "A software grant must be provided to the ASF. This grant can either
>> be done by the ASF Corporate CLA (via Schedule B) or the Software
>> Grant Agreement. The completed and signed grant must be emailed to
>> secretary@apache.org"
>>
>> Consequently, they send (the received) CCLA which was supposed to
>> cover for that.
>>
>> Apologies if I misunderstood the requirement. Could you please help me
>> out here and list what exactly we need from Intel and/or Jessica to
>> get this done?
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 12:48 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Karl,
>> >
>> > CCLA [1] is just a document indicating that the corporate entity has
>> given
>> > approval for individuals associated to it to contribute to Apache under
>> > ICLAs.  It really doesn't provide any legal bearing to relicense code
>> > outside of an ICLA/SGA.
>> >
>> > Usually when projects come to us with an IP clearance, its for a
>> > significant amount of code.  In those scenarios, there's an SGA
>> associated
>> > with the contribution (from a corporate entity) indicating that they are
>> > licensing the ASF to use the code under the Apache license (irrespective
>> of
>> > the original license).  I'm assuming that at Intel some # of engineers
>> > contributed to this code, and that it was under a proprietary license
>> until
>> > this JIRA ticket was filed.  In that case, SGA is almost always the right
>> > document to get signed.
>> >
>> > In the situations where we see ICLAs, there isn't usually a SGA involved
>> > since its covered under an ICLA for that committer and needs to be
>> applied
>> > as a patch/pull request.  The other clear thing this indicates is a loss
>> of
>> > provenance, since (I haven't looked at all of the source files) we're
>> > receiving a flat dump of code to be brought into an existing repository.
>> >
>> > So, unfortunately, until that's resolved I'm -1 to accepting it.
>> >
>> > [1]: https://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 5:03 AM Karl Pauls <karlpauls@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi John,
>> >>
>> >> as far as I understand the situation, the contribution has been
>> >> submitted by Jessica Marz on behalf of Intel. The copyright is
>> >> entirely Intel and the CCLA received is _from_ Intel, covering Jessica
>> >> Marz and the contribution. Does that help?
>> >>
>> >> regards,
>> >>
>> >> Karl
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:54 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > Can you please clarify whether only a CCLA was received, or if
>> ICLAs/SGA
>> >> > were received as well?  The document indicates a CCLA was received
>> from
>> >> an
>> >> > individual, which doesn't sound right.
>> >> >
>> >> > John
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM Karl Pauls <karlpauls@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> the Apache Felix project has received the contribution of the Bundle
>> >> >> Archive File Installer Extension.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - The code is attached to FELIX-5732 [0].
>> >> >> - The IP Clearance form has been committed [1].
>> >> >> - The acceptance vote has passed on the dev@felix malining list
[2].
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The clearance passes by lazy consensus if no -1 votes are cast
within
>> >> >> the next 72 hours.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> regards,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Karl
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [0] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5732
>> >> >> [1]
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/felix-bar-file-install-extension.html
>> >> >> [2] https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@felix.apache.org/msg44409.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Karl Pauls
>> >> >> karlpauls@gmail.com
>> >> >>
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >> karlpauls@gmail.com
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>>
>>
>>
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>> Karl Pauls
>> karlpauls@gmail.com
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