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From Hen <bay...@apache.org>
Subject Re: PPMC voting new committers
Date Mon, 06 Nov 2017 09:18:37 GMT
Scratching my head as I assumed it was a normal non-tech vote conducted on
the PPMC private list, majority wins, must be at least 3 votes. The one
'additional' rule I assumed was that the same must be true of PMC members
voting; effectively the PPMC vote needs to include 3 mentor +1s. If a vote
concludes with less than 3 PMC votes, it goes to the Incubator PMC private
list to fill in the necessary votes. As the project moves closer to
graduation, those mentor votes become more and more whackamole.

Guessing I'm out of date :) I didn't know we had PMCs that were adding
people via lazy consensus.

Hen


On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Craig Russell <apache.clr@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd like to see a change in incubator policy w.r.t. voting new committers.
>
> While there are no Foundation policies on how to vote new committers, we
> do have best practices documented in http://community.apache.org/
> newcommitter.html that explicitly calls for consensus approval of at
> least three positive votes and no vetoes.
>
> Applying this to the incubator, it makes sense to me to change the
> incubator policy to require a vote (no lazy consensus) and at least three
> PPMC votes in favor. I'd also add a requirement for at least one Mentor
> vote in favor.
>
> After graduation, communities might feel that they know better and can
> adopt bylaws that are different from the community best practices. But
> while in incubation I think that we should enforce best practice.
>
> Craig
>
> Craig L Russell
> clr@apache.org
>
>
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