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From Mike Jumper <mike.jum...@guac-dev.org>
Subject [DISCUSS] Vote forwarding confusion (Was: Re: Fwd: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Guacamole as TLP)
Date Fri, 27 Oct 2017 18:58:22 GMT
Sounds like a good idea to me. Clicking the forward button is simple,
but the resulting list confusion outweighs that.

Forwarding in this case also confused Pony Mail, which is magically
unifying the emails from general@ into the dev@ thread, while
providing a warning in general@ that only part of the thread is shown.
The good old mod_mbox archives get the two threads right, though.

- Mike

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:40 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks for pointing it out.  This tends to happen here at the incubator.
>
> I'm contemplating removing the "FWD the vote" part from
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
> to
> avoid situations like this, and instead encourage others to send an email
> to general@ indicating they're voting on graduation with a link to the vote
> in it.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> John
>
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 2:38 PM Mike Jumper <mjumper@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I'll gladly copy these votes onto the guacamole dev@ list when the result
> > is called, but beware that this thread is not the VOTE thread. This is the
> > thread notifying the incubator general list that the community VOTE is in
> > progress.
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > >
> > > Pierre
> > >
> > > On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 at 14:55 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 (binding)
> > > >
> > > > (forwarding my vote here)
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > JB
> > > >
> > > > On 10/25/2017 06:15 AM, Mike Jumper wrote:
> > > > > FYI, the community vote for graduating Apache Guacamole as TLP has
> > now
> > > > begun.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > - Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > > From: Mike Jumper <mjumper@apache.org>
> > > > > Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 9:10 PM
> > > > > Subject: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Guacamole as TLP
> > > > > To: dev@guacamole.incubator.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Given the current state of the Apache Guacamole podling, positive
> > > > > discussion on this list regarding graduation [1] [2], and positive
> > > > > feedback regarding graduation in our most recent podling report [3],
> > I
> > > > > would like to begin the community VOTE for graduation of Apache
> > > > > Guacamole to TLP.
> > > > >
> > > > > The podling status page is completed and up to date, and a maturity
> > > > > evaluation has been completed and published to the website:
> > > > >
> > > > >      Podling status page:
> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/guacamole.html
> > > > >      Maturity evaluation:
> > > > > http://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/maturity-evaluation/
> > > > >
> > > > > The draft resolution for establishing the Apache Guacamole TLP can
be
> > > > > found at the bottom of this email. Please review the resolution and
> > > > > VOTE:
> > > > >
> > > > > [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Guacamole as TLP
> > > > > [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Guacamole as TLP (please provide
> > specific
> > > > comments)
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a community vote and everyone is invited to participate.
PPMC
> > > > > votes should be marked binding.
> > > > >
> > > > > This vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is my +1 (binding).
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > - Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/0848dd53b6acc1a0edea2eda1f3852
> > > 94eeb041a88c3d1f6221fa1ef2@%3Cdev.guacamole.apache.org%3E
> > > > > [2]
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a5259173a8ef4a1d2bb7be2d99d3cb
> > > c2ccf8856130ae6e3fe54e079e@%3Cdev.guacamole.apache.org%3E
> > > > > [3] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2017
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------
> > > > >
> > > > > Establish the Apache Guacamole Project
> > > > >
> > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
> > of
> > > > > the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
> > > establish
> > > > > a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
> > > maintenance
> > > > > of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> > > > > related to providing performant, browser-based remote access.
> > > > >
> > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> > > > > (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Guacamole Project", be and hereby
> > is
> > > > > established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> > > > >
> > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Guacamole Project be and hereby is
> > > responsible
> > > > > for the creation and maintenance of software related to providing
> > > > > performant, browser-based remote access; and be it further
> > > > >
> > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Guacamole" be
> > and
> > > > > hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> > > > > direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache
> > > Guacamole
> > > > > Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> > > > > projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Guacamole
> > > > > Project; and be it further
> > > > >
> > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby
are
> > > > > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Guacamole
> > > > > Project:
> > > > >
> > > > >   * Carl Harris          <ceharris@apache.org>
> > > > >   * Daniel Gruno         <humbedooh@apache.org>
> > > > >   * Frode Langelo        <frode@apache.org>
> > > > >   * Greg Trasuk          <gtrasuk@apache.org>
> > > > >   * James Muehlner       <jmuehlner@apache.org>
> > > > >   * Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jbonofre@apache.org>
> > > > >   * Jim Jagielski        <jim@apache.org>
> > > > >   * Mike Jumper          <mjumper@apache.org>
> > > > >   * Nick Couchman        <vnick@apache.org>
> > > > >   * Olivier Lamy         <olamy@apache.org>
> > > > >
> > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Mike Jumper be appointed
> > > to
> > > > > the office of Vice President, Apache Guacamole, to serve in
> > accordance
> > > > > with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
> > > > > Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,
> > removal
> > > > > or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> > > > > further
> > > > >
> > > > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Guacamole PMC be and hereby is
> > tasked
> > > > > with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
> > > > > development and increased participation in the Apache Guacamole
> > > Project;
> > > > > and be it further
> > > > >
> > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Guacamole Project be and hereby is tasked
> > > with
> > > > > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Guacamole
> > > > > podling; and be it further
> > > > >
> > > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> > Incubator
> > > > > Guacamole podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are
> > > hereafter
> > > > > discharged.
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > > > jbonofre@apache.org
> > > > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > > > Talend - http://www.talend.com
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > --
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> > >
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