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From Andreas Lehmkuehler <andr...@lehmi.de>
Subject Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache PDFBox JBIG2 ImageIO Plugin
Date Mon, 25 Sep 2017 20:39:27 GMT
Am 25.09.2017 um 19:32 schrieb Craig Russell:
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2017, at 8:55 AM, John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Craig,
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:42 AM Craig Russell <apache.clr@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andreas,
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 10:17 PM, Andreas Lehmkuehler <andreas@lehmi.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 25.09.2017 um 03:07 schrieb Craig Russell:
>>>>> It might be useful to discuss under what terms we are considering
>>> incorporating this code.
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/#provenance describes three types of
>>> code. If we are preserving the original (alv2) license and copyright it's
>>> ok to redistribute it with the original headers.
>>>>> But if we are planning to change the headers to the standard Apache
>>> headers, then IP provenance (with a corresponding a grant or CCLA) is
>>> needed and the headers can then be changed.
>>>> Levigo already did all the work. They changed the license, the headers
>>> and the java package names as well. They asked all contributors outside the
>>> core team if they are ok with changing the license, see [1]
>>>
>>> Changing the license is one thing. Changing the header is quite a
>>> different thing. The Apache header states that the code is "licensed to
>>> Apache under one or more contributor license agreements". This means that
>>> there is an ICLA, CCLA, or grant on file from all contributors. It looks
>>> like @dbdr and @janpe2 agree to the license change to aslv2 but we don't
>>> have an ICLA on file from them. Are these the only two contributors at
>>> issue?
>>>
>>> If we don't have grants (ICLA, CCLA, grant) on file, then the license
>>> headers should not be changed, And the Apache distribution needs to
>>> preserve the copyrights of the original.
>>>
>>> The change from the third party license header to the Apache license
>>> header should really only be done here under Apache version control.
>>>
>>>
>> That's the confusing part here.  When they relicensed the code to ALv2
>> (there's no ASLv2) they changed it to the standard ASF headers, not the
>> general purpose Apache License headers from [1] (how to apply).
>>
>> [1]: https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0#apply
> 
> I'm not going to stand in the way of accepting this contribution, but for the record,
the reason we have separate headers is to avoid exactly this issue where provenance is unclear.
@Thanks Craig for looking at the details. I'm happy to provide any further 
information if needed.

Andreas

> 
> Craig
>>
>>
>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>> Levigo filed an SGA and we have 4 ICLAs from the core team on file:
>>>>
>>>> - Jörg Henne (He is already an Apache Directory committer [2] and
>>> managing the transfer)
>>>> - Matthäus Mayer
>>>> - Sebastian Holder (Levigo employee)
>>>> - Carolin Köhler (Levigo employee)
>>>>
>>>> And we have a new CCLA on file for Carolin and Sebastian.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this is the missing information you are looking for.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://github.com/levigo/jbig2-imageio/issues/31
>>>> [2] http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=hennejg
>>>>
>>>>> Craig
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 4:44 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andreas,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I wanted to dig into the code base further before responding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems like you've already done the work that is intended to be
done
>>> once
>>>>>> the code is imported to an ASF repo.  As a person outside the project,
>>> I
>>>>>> have no idea who 'hennejg' is other than matching a committer on
file.
>>>>>> Likewise, I'm not sure their relationship to 'levigo holding GmbH'
>>> however
>>>>>> they were the copyright holder.  Ideally we would want to see something
>>>>>> from that company indicating they are willing to license the code
to
>>> the
>>>>>> ASF.  Since the code was GPL previously, I believe we would expect
one
>>> of
>>>>>> the two forms I mentioned to be filed.  If we have an SGA, or we
have
>>> some
>>>>>> confirmation that ICLAs are already on file for all of the
>>> contributors,
>>>>>> that would help here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 5:02 PM Andreas Lehmkuehler <andreas@lehmi.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 24.09.2017 um 22:57 schrieb Andreas Lehmkuehler:
>>>>>>>> Am 24.09.2017 um 20:31 schrieb John D. Ament:
>>>>>>>>> I can't find a grant on file that would convert the code
from the
>>> prior
>>>>>>>>> license to Apache v2.  Were ICLA's filed by all contributors?
>>>>>>>> The SGA is about the version which is already ALv2 licensed.
Just, do
>>>>>>> avoid
>>>>>>>> misunderstandings, do you have any doubts that the relicensing
wasn't
>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>> properly? Is some written proof necessary?
>>>>>>> Maybe, [1] is what you are looking for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/levigo/jbig2-imageio/issues/31
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If no I'm -1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM Andreas Lehmkuehler
<
>>> andreas@lehmi.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the Apache PDFBox project has received a contribution
of a JBIG2
>>>>>>> ImageIO
>>>>>>>>>> plugin.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * The code is attached to PDFBOX-3906 [1]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * The IP Clearance form has been committed to the
Incubator
>>> website.
>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * A vote has passed on the dev@pdfbox mailing list
[3]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The clearance passes by lazy consensus if no -1 votes
are cast
>>> within
>>>>>>>>>> the next 72 hours.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Andreas Lehmkühler
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PDFBOX-3906
>>>>>>>>>> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/pdfbox-jbig2.html
>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/pdfbox-dev/201709.mbox/%3Cd99b6245-c11c-349f-c239-a4eca68fff2e%40lehmi.de%3E
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> Craig L Russell
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