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From Clebert Suconic <clebert.suco...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Seeking interested parties for a messaging components podling
Date Wed, 02 Aug 2017 18:47:53 GMT
I believe from the POV of Camel, the Messaging provider should provide
such components...  we thought during the process to have these
compnents living in Camel, that's where this thread started.

The thing is.. starting an incubator project just to store the JMS
Pool sounds like building a war tank to kill a small bird.


The idea then was to have this involving other generic components that
are messaging centric.. so as long as we have enough components to
live here, it would be ok.



although, another idea that was raised was to use apache commons, but
this is too much of a specific problem (messaging).

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Phillip Rhodes
<motley.crue.fan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds interesting.  I wonder if the Camel community would be
> interested in this as well?
>
>
> Phil
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> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Clebert Suconic
> <clebert.suconic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just coming back into this.. I want to be realistic here... I'm kind
>> of pushing back on my side.
>>
>> If there's anyone with time to push this forward.. i will support
>> them... but I won't have time on my hands to push this myself.
>>
>> I don't have the time to manage a new project now... my demand on
>> activemq artemis is being too big..
>> I can do eventual fixes.. contributions.. but I don't have time on my
>> hands to start a new incubator project.
>>
>> If anyone is interested on pushing and leading this.. i will embark as
>> a helper.. not as a leader.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 2:49 AM, Von Gosling <vongosling@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> RocketMQ community have discussed the common messaging components endeavor[1],
we are glad to join this podling  :-)
>>>
>>> As for OpenMessaging spec, we have launched this spec. project under Linux foundation(May
be CNCF later), If guys have interest about it, welcome join and discuss at gitter[2].
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Von Gosling
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?general@incubator.apache.org <https://lists.apache.org/list.html?general@incubator.apache.org>
>>> [2] https://gitter.im/openmessaging/public <https://gitter.im/openmessaging/public>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 在 2017年6月28日,22:30,Clebert Suconic <clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
写道:
>>>>
>>>> With the number of message brokers out there (call it message
>>>> solution, server.. whatever you want to call it).. This new project
>>>> could represent a nice opportunity..  it was a simple idea that's
>>>> starting to grow I think
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> @Von Gosling: would you be able to bring OpenMessaging as part of this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:20 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>> You've been added.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:06 AM Michael André Pearce <
>>>>> michael.andre.pearce@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> @John,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have created username: MichaelAndrePearce (so original)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could I be enabled to edit the wiki
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26 Jun 2017, at 21:47, Clebert Suconic <clebert.suconic@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @John: do I need special auth to change the WIKI you created?
I can't
>>>>>>> figure out how to make a change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 6:16 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've dropped in the proposal template to
>>>>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MessagingComponentsProposal
- we can
>>>>>>>> rename it later if we come up with a better name.  I'd encourage
those
>>>>>>>> interested in the project to start to form out this proposal
so we can
>>>>>>>> start to shape the who, the why and the what.  If you need
access to the
>>>>>>>> incubator wiki, first register then email on here asking
to gain access.
>>>>>>>> Include your username.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 9:17 PM Von Gosling <vongosling@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi john,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am very interested in participate in such a podling
personally. as
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> RocketMQ community, imo, we will start a thread to discussion
this
>>>>>> idea :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Von Gosling
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 在 2017年6月24日,22:17,John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com>
写道:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Von Gosling,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I just want to check, is this an indication that
there may be
>>>>>> interest
>>>>>>>>>> from the RocketMQ community to participate in such
a podling?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 9:35 PM Von Gosling <vongosling@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure your mention is Apache RocketMQ.
In RocketMQ, jms
>>>>>>>>>>> integration is just a adaptor, while not fully
support JMS 1.1 and
>>>>>> JMS
>>>>>>>>> 2.0
>>>>>>>>>>> specification.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> IMO, that’s a good idea. if we messaging engines
can collaborate to
>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>> common components, such as benchmark, common
api specification, wire
>>>>>>>>>>> protocol bridge and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed, we have drafted some api specification(OpenMessaging)
about
>>>>>>>>>>> messaging and streaming fields[1], welcome any
idea about it :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://openmessaging.github.io/ <
>>>>>> https://openmessaging.github.io/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Von Gosling
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 在 2017年6月24日,05:25,Michael André
Pearce <
>>>>>> michael.andre.pearce@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> 写道:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As already been discussing in the Artemis
mailing lists have some
>>>>>> areas
>>>>>>>>>>> we would like to contribute/commit in particular
already looking at:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> JMSObject Custom serdes wrapper (with and
avro serdes as initial
>>>>>>>>>>> provided)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Generic JMS Client side persistence
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-06-22 04:39 (+0100), Atri Sharma
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would love to contribute.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 2017 8:05 AM, "John D. Ament"
wrote:>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's an ongoing discussion on
the ActiveMQ dev list [1] to
>>>>>> spin up
>>>>>>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project focused on core, reusable
messaging components. The
>>>>>> feeling
>>>>>>>>> is>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that this is outside the realm of
ActiveMQ for various reasons and
>>>>>>>>>>> could be>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leveraged by various messaging platforms,
potentially even
>>>>>> building
>>>>>>>>>>> out>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some reusability and core protocol
support along the ways.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Knowing that we have some messaging
experience within the
>>>>>> incubator,
>>>>>>>>> I>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to prod around a bit to see
if there was anyone else
>>>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>>>>>> in a>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project like this.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS - when I say interested parties,
it could be>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> champions/mentors/contributors or
heck even possible TLP
>>>>>> sponsors.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]:>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ff3ffb0408d299724caadbfb6e3c37>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3e74d5d16def9af0c1a8fd8db9@%3Cdev.activemq.apache.org%3E>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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