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I'm no Director any more. Such policy is above my pay grade :-P On Jun 8, 2017 22:20, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote: On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > I recall a company that started to list out each of things NOT to do. Item > after item after item, to develop a policy. After a few dozen such, one guy > piped up, "this is ridiculous" ... It just isn't tractable. So he suggested > a simple replacement: > > Do no evil. Should we add that to our release policy? Will VP Legal go along with that? Seriously, on one hand I see folks saying here that clarfiying what is and isn't acceptable is useful. On the other hand, I see your reaction that can only be described as "duh! what policy -- its just common sense". I actually do not think it is common sense anymore -- I do think it needs to be documented. However, this won't be the first time when what I feel passionate about is ignored by the "official ASF" -- not a biggie -- you guys are the bosses. I just need to learn to care less. Thanks, Roman. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org --001a1140c838a850280551807133--