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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Contents of Podling Status Tracking
Date Tue, 06 Jun 2017 11:43:52 GMT
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 7:32 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 5:22 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > ...Looking at our current tracking file for podlings, I wonder how much
> of the
> > information is useful...
>
> I agree that a good part of the information found in podling status
> pages belongs on their own websites, as soon as those are up.
>
> Note that http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html does scrape some
> data from those pages AFAIK, so it might break if we remove things.
>
>
I'm not sure how much others care about clutch.  It was never updated to
handle things like git, github, etc.  I think if the remaining useful data
from clutch can be folded in to the public display we're OK.

I do think some of the automated information it provides is useful - number
of days incubating, distribution area, but I'm personally OK if clutch goes
away when this is all done (work has started to generate podling reporting
data out of whimsy using a data feed,
https://whimsy.apache.org/public/public_podlings.json  - take a look at the
schedule section).  I never quite liked the color coded table with
characters for column headers.

If we still want an incubator level "executive summary" type of report,
that can be built from the data feed as well.


> It looks to me like podlings.xml + whimsy roster + a graduation
> checklist / report including items like software grants, list of
> releases, podling name search etc. would do - but I haven't checked
> the impact on the clutch report.
>

Funny thing.  I've never actually been on the creating side for an
incubator release.  Does projects.a.o work for podlings?  I do see one of
my podlings there, and if we can pull that data we can show release data as
well automatically.


>
> That graduation report (along with the optional maturity model
> self-assessment) can then live on the podling's website to gradually
> evolve during incubation, and be sumitted along with the graduation
> request. There's no need to check those things beforehand, IMO, as
> long as podlings have a template for that report which indicates
> what's required.
>
>
I think if a podling isn't sure if they're ready to graduate, having
someone look at this list would be useful.


> -Bertrand
>
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